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Man City stack with Toure, Sterling and Silva with a combined salary of $18000 was a good play. They returned a combined points of 61.5 and had low ownership overall.

Similar to last week and Wolfsburg. Another team on patchy form who went and delivered away from home.

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02-24-2016 , 09:26 PM

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Garrincha67

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Originally Posted by DuckSauce

This is inherently wrong. You should play people because they are good plays not because they are contrarian . Plenty of good plays can still be contrarian.

Plenty of good plays look obvious with hindsight and after the event. As we dealing with salary constraints, juggling players comes into play. Most good play midfielders for the UCL fixtures were priced high, not many under $4000.

Also except the Premier League players, there is not much recent game log stats for other players making detailed homework a must.

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02-24-2016 , 09:34 PM

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RonaldoVamos

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I cant believe you've said look obvious with hindsight the post after saying toure, silva, sterling lol.

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02-24-2016 , 09:41 PM

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DuckSauce

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Toure was an awful pick . Lol at suggesting otherwise.

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02-24-2016 , 09:53 PM

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Garrincha67

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Originally Posted by RonaldoVamos

I cant believe you've said look obvious with hindsight the post after saying toure, silva, sterling lol.

Yes, we discussing after the event. No ? None of us are soothsayers.

So I tend to especially look at ownership level especially as most sites except SportDraftr and Playon do not have this feature.

Obviously for those of us new to DK's we learning the ropes. It does not apply to those who have mastered it and can nail it every game week.

Now if there are any soothsayers on Europa League play, give me a shout and doing homework right now.

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02-24-2016 , 09:59 PM

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Garrincha67

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Originally Posted by DuckSauce

Toure was an awful pick . Lol at suggesting otherwise.

Why was Toure an awful pick for Wed's fixtures ? He was playing much forward just behind Aguero. He got an assist, a goal and other perphieral points. That is 24.00 points for a salary price of $5900 and was owned by 4.4% in the $40k game.

Toure would have been an awful pick if he was playing much deeper. Koke who was similarly priced at $5800 had no goal, no assist and just perphieral points totalling 10 points. Ownership of 32.3% in the $40k game. That is an awful pick.

Will play to season's end and see where I stand. So far above break even and nice to place on contests.

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02-24-2016 , 10:06 PM

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There's about 4 players just off the top of my head that are all better picks than yaya at similar price points. Two of them were on his team. I literally fell off my chair at the notion that yaya is in the same stratosphere as koke for dfs.

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02-24-2016 , 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DuckSauce

Koke is excellent player, but plays in a low scoring and highly organised team. They have not scored in last two games and just 35 league goals for the season. Their defence is a freak.

For DK's game due to set-piece and crosses you will have him. In other DFS sites I play for La Liga, I prefer Athletico Madrid's defence and it is a league blessed with other quality midfielders.

Eager to know the 4 players that are all better picks than Yaya at similar price points. Dybala was the best value overall at $4900. The others ?

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02-24-2016 , 10:18 PM

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Too much results oriented thinking going on in this thread.

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02-24-2016 , 10:30 PM

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Garrincha67

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Originally Posted by bosoxx05

Too much results oriented thinking going on in this thread.

Ha ha ha!

This is the only place that I know that has decent discussion for soccer DFS and especially with Draft Kings game format.

For FPL trust me there are countless forums, groups and Twitter pages. Have a look at this eight part nearly over 10,000 words research on double game weeks, now that is what I call results oriented thinking.

https://fpldiva.wordpress.com/?s=Double+game+week

Just a sample of the few parts.

https://fpldiva.wordpress.com/2016/0...omment-page-1/

https://fpldiva.wordpress.com/2016/0...ing-part-four/

We just having a light discussion here.

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02-25-2016 , 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bosoxx05

Too much results oriented thinking going on in this thread.

This. Anyone who understands recent form knows Toure was a horrible pick.

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02-25-2016 , 02:12 AM

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Toure's ceiling depends greatly of the position he plays.

And recent form is vastly overrated especially for teams. Is difficult to really know whether is "recent form" or just variance.

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02-25-2016 , 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by silelunu

Toure's ceiling depends greatly of the position he plays.

And recent form is vastly overrated especially for teams. Is difficult to really know whether is "recent form" or just variance.

I could not agree more with you. Exactly my points as well.

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02-25-2016 , 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Garrincha67

Man City stack with Toure, Sterling and Silva with a combined salary of $18000 was a good play. They returned a combined points of 61.5 and had low ownership overall.

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Originally Posted by Garrincha67

Plenty of good plays look obvious with hindsight and after the event. .

These are inherently contradictory statements.

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02-25-2016 , 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sciolist

These are inherently contradictory statements.

We are discussing the games and players performance after the fixtures have been played.

Instead of using the quotes that way, read the discussion in the forum in the right order. It really helps trust me.

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02-25-2016 , 04:01 AM

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Sometimes other people are right and you're wrong you know.

A good play is making a good decision on the information you have to hand, it is not having a decision that happens to turn out well.

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02-25-2016 , 04:37 AM

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I can't believe there is a discussion about if Yaya was a good pick or even compared to koke. Next he'll be getting compared to yarmalenko too!
Have to not be results orientated garincha...

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02-25-2016 , 04:40 AM

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And fyi before the game the best three picks I couldn't believe weren't 70% each, yarm, koke, willems.

Dyabla a good pick too but not as much so as the above 3 imo.

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02-25-2016 , 05:37 AM

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There is no denial that Yarmo, Koke and Silva were much stronger plays than Yaya, but I don't think Yaya was such a bad large gpp play. With him playing more forward, he had an OK ceiling. His main problem was that many casuals were to be on him, inflating his % ownership unnecessary

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02-25-2016 , 05:39 AM

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In a big field single day gpp, or in a 2 day gpp where u were chasing already he was a pretty good punt.
Besides that pretty awful tho imo.

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02-25-2016 , 09:18 AM

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I can't speak too much for DK, as I am not entwined with the scoring system, however I rated Yaya very very highly on MondoGoal when it was clear he was playing in the hole.

Personally I thought City were great value and wholly undervalued (pre-game). I would have always taken Yaya over Koke given the way the two teams were set up, and that is the way I went.

For cash and GPP, I stacked Silva, Yaya & Aguero, however I do realise that DK was over 2 days.

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02-25-2016 , 09:25 AM

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yaya didn't even play no. 10 yesterday, silva did
fernandinho played on the right with yaya and fernando sitting deeper

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02-25-2016 , 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TWhelan

yaya didn't even play no. 10 yesterday, silva did
fernandinho played on the right with yaya and fernando sitting deeper

It felt to me like he started in the #10 role, as he was always in the attack. Then Fernadinho moved up to a similar position later in the match, did Fernadinho pick up a yellow or something that could enforce that style of change?

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02-25-2016 , 09:32 AM

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Mondo to DK is completely different, in dk mainly about crosses & shots. Yaya does neither in abundence.

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02-25-2016 , 09:33 AM

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I was sort of distracted second half whilst doing other stuff, but they definitely started with Fernandinho on the right. Check out the highlights and you will see it straight after kick off.

Yaya does join the attack a lot anyway regardless of where he is supposed to be playing and City were dominant in the first half, so not surprising that he was getting forward quite a bit. They kinda played 4-1-1-3-1 instead of 4-2-3-1 I guess.

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