The player list on football index has some great value for long term hold. Thomas Muller price can only increase with the later stage of the champions league & Euro's coming up. Likewise with Griezmann. Seen the forum, and informative community there already.

Not played on Buabook yet, will do so after I understand the guide well. Just from looking at the platform, it is slick with all sorts of info & stats. Think they affiliated with Whoscored or part of their business.

Here is a good platform that includes the Eredivisie. Underrated site and been around for a while. More paid seasonal with prizes than daily though.

http://eurofantasyleague.com/

Yeah. Already saw that one before. Thanks for the suggestion. When i see how populair this is innmy friendcircle i just cant believe it is not there yet. Thanks again. And i will follow your uodates on new sites hoping it is the one

About football index site, i read the rules. Now tell me where i'm wrong:

For every position (long) a player have in his portfolio, the opposite position (short) is in possession of the Footballindex company. From an investor point of view, the best scenario this company can wish for is this: total market crash- because the short positions can be covered spending... close to 0$. Now, what can happen so bad with football that can make everyone want to dump their shares at once so the prices go to... 0.0001? Wrong question! Because this is not the football market we are talking about. It could be other kind of bad news, not football-related. Like "Footballindex is going bankrupt" kind of news.

Now, i'm not saying this is going to happen. But is kind of a weird situation where, at sometime in the future, when the "market capitalization" will be bigger, the clients will have opposite interests with the company. And this could end bad.

You are making an excellent observation Silelunu. I have checked to see who regulates football index and they have a license from the Gambling Commission. In most cases for betting and fantasy sites, player funds are required to be segregated from operating funds.

I wonder too how they deal with the scenario you describe when discussing granting their license.

https://secure.gamblingcommission.go...ccountNo=43061

While Buabook and their spread trading is regulated by the Financial conduct authority.

https://register.fca.org.uk/ShPo_Fir...000000lARKHAA4

We did a piece on a new DFS SharkScope style tracking site in Europe.

http://www.fantasyfootballportal.com...e-new-meaning/

I've got a feeling that a few of the regulars on here might soon be frequenting the leaderboards!

This is making me smile. Thanks for the heads up Britton. I can see it works on FanTeam and Fanaments already. On Mondo, users can and do change unsernames so will be interesting tracking the sharks in all their guises.

I am across the varying DFS sites either as SuperCool or Garrincha.

This is my stats for FanTeam, I mostly play free-rolls and occasional paid game. Find their salary pricing frustrating and lop-sided. 58% ROI is not bad still.

Just starting on Fanaments properly from last few weeks so will be great to track that too.

The tool is not only great to identify sharks but measure properly profitability and ROI. No need for brags, let DFS stats speak for itself.

http://www.dfstats.net/stat/fanteam/Garrinchanutmeg

Great find, that will come in really handy. Love the site upgrade as well.

Very interesting, would be happy to see the results on Mondo indeed. Having said that, are you guys sure it is all OK legally? I think a few losing players might be pissed off to be found out...

I know that in the US, RotoGrinders has a quasi monopoly re players ranking. But they only look at gross winnings, not profitability.

DFS is not immune to irrationality or wanting to hitting the big time in one go syndrome. Look at the lottery mania in the US & UK this month. Look at the amount of people that fraudulently claimed a 33mil winning ticket claiming it was put in the laundry by mistake or their dog chewed it mistaking it for a bone.

If you offer most people 100k today but no guaranteed income for the rest of their life most will take it. While the rational option will be eke out 5k annum profit for the rest of their life.

So be it lottery, DFS platform's or the government allowing one to cash their pension at the age of 55, they play the mass like pinball on our irrationality.

Any player posting positive profitability & ROI across DFS platform's no matter how small should be happy. How do you learn and gain significant edge otherwise ?

Pinnacle sports are the only sportsbook willing to engage and educate their customers on long term profitability. Shame they pulled out of the UK, will like to see them come back.

I recommend these three books as essential reading for anyone seeking long term profitability in whatever field they want to pursue it. They are:

The Drunkard's Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Drunkard.../dp/0141026472

The Wisdom of Crowds: Why the Many Are Smarter Than the Few

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Wisdom-C.../dp/0349116059

Thinking, Fast and Slow

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thinking-Fas...words=Kahenman

Happy reading!

Damn thought I'd be leading profit wise on Fanaments on football, got some chasing to do. Seems like basketball is where the most profit is at right now, anybody got any tips for learning it? I know close to 0 about the NBA.

I can't find anything on username changing on mondo. How does that work Garrincha?

buabook-



1. they let you short sell players- this has benefits for market liquidity and does not necessary lead to the footballindex situation where the company is short and clients are long
2. in the event that everybody want to sell at once and the market price go to 0, you have the option to wait for the end of the tourney and close the position at the "fair price"- a price that is objectively calculated.
3. I did not find any reference to the market making activities - this is not good since buabook interventions on the market (if any) should be strictly regulated.
4. spreads are huge for some players, again the market making problem.
5. I'm curious how bubabook handle high volatility moments- an injury for exemple.

Hi, I'm one of the founders of DFStats.net

First of all thanks to guys from www.fantasyfootballportal.com and WorldCupDanB for review and feedback.

We also had a topic on 2p2, but it was deleted with reason "spam" - sorry, probably we understood the rules bad.

About Mondogoal: we have a dialogue with them, but they are not too positive about this idea since it can injure players who lose or just have fun and don't want their stats to be public. In this case we will add an option to opt-out soon, but still not sure about them. So if you really want Mondogoal to be added, I guess you can write them with positive feedback, to show what players think about that.

In the meantime, we are working on adding FantasyBet and probably AlphaDraft (eSports).

If you have any suggestions, contact us in this topic, pm or contact form at DFStats.net.

Thanks WorldCupDanB and fantasyfootballportal.com again!

I understand Mondo views to be fair.

Is there any way to change your ranking based on total winnings rather than profitability? I get that net return is all what matter eventually, but I also think that many people are not too keen having how much they lost publicly and easily accessible to anyone. Even winning players might want to keep this info for themselves (this is my case personally).

In any case, it's a great tool and will defo play with it for the sites I play.

As it was said above, we will add an opportunity to opt-out. Everybody who doesn't want his stats to be displayed, will have a chance to do it - hide all or just some of them.

Thanks, hope it will increase your "winnings"

Great product Fargo87. I like it, all the best too in adding more DFS sites.

Having an opt-out option seems fair. But overall it is a good product, it will educate most players where they need to improve and be much more efficient.

While advertising total winnings might attract more players, net return helps them play for much longer and stick around.

It is straightforward, go under Account on Mondogoal - press profile and it says change username.

Easy for someone to pretend to be a novice on head to head games.

One thing it does not change though is the overall amount of unique players which is between 200-220.

We appreciate the interest in this type of product/information being available for Mondogoal and will consider ways to make some information more accessible both on the site itself and through partners.

As it currently stands we are continuing to monitor sites like DFStats and similar ones to see if there is a way we can get involved. We take our users data and privacy seriously and do not want to make a lot of that information easily accessible without explicit consent from the user.

Stay tuned as we continue to monitor and don't hesitate to provide additional thoughts/feedback to support@mondogoal.com it is always welcomed.

Thanks and good luck in your contests!
-Team Mondogoal

I have printed the FAQ it is is detailed on trading & pricing, best to read it thoroughly.

It says here if a player is injured or doesn't play he loses value, each game he does not play he will lose £0.10.

I know but that is "fair value" you talk about. What i'm interested in is what happen with the market quotations in the seconds/minutes after the injury when everybody is trying to sell at once and there is no buyer. Usually the market maker hate such events and they will try to slow the trading process, even freeze the platform. Is buabook involved in market making? If so, what are the rules for that?

(wikipedia: "A market maker or liquidity provider is a company, or an individual, that quotes both a buy and a sell price in a financial instrument or commodity held in inventory, hoping to make a profit on the bid-offer spread"

Is Fanteam usually slow and laggy or is it just my laptop/slow today?

Mine won't let me change the name, it's greyed out. Anyone else? Don't particularly want to change it - just interested.

It used to be slow and laggy. But they have improved the site and loads faster. It was okay today on their mobile site. Shame about their ridiculous salary pricing, just playing free-rolls till they sort that out.

One thing I give them credit is they at least a one sub option for non-starting players. Find it amazing you can have over a dozen DFS platform's and not one has addressed non-starting players & allowing late swap.

No matter how much homework one does, non-starting players are a certainty. Frustrating!