if you want me to piss of thats fine too but just felt an obligation to engage a bit since i made some posts about you when you werent around

My list. Within each tier, the order is just alphabetical.

gusmahler

dmk
kukraprout
wdcbooks

There's a slight chance that the peek was dmk = vill /coordi = wolf (he used the same language for both), but seems more likely that it was dmk/kukra both vill (he listed them first).

aaronk56
jonnyd
nicholasp27

I could go either way with all in this group, but lean village. Each seem to be genuinely trying to help the village.

atakdog
crossnerd
riverfish1
sixfour
youknowwho

Worth a re-read for me that I will do later.

felix the cat
kruze

This is a separate tier. Not necessarily more wolfy than the previous tier, even though it is listed below. Just different. But the defense of "their play is so blatantly anti-village that a wolf would never do it" might actually have some merit. But someone said that kruze is pro-village today. Did he really do anything, except be there as a sounding board for jonnyd?

Day 4: Automated Votals from #2841 to #2877

riverfish1 (2): KruZe (23), wdcbooks (13)
gusmahler (1): sixfour (4)
Felix the Cat (1): gusmahler (12)
UNVOTE (1): dmk (33)
Not voting (10): aaronk56 (6), atakdog (0), Crossnerd (0), Felix the Cat (21), jonnyd (59), Kukraprout (40), Nicholasp27 (16), riverfish1 (12), YouKnowWho (6), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 8h33m. Hammer at 8.

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Probably should have trusted my judgment more, was right on crackedquads and shortline, but ended up following the majority, general opinions of the group made sense and sticking with where I was at likely wouldn't have made any difference (maybe shortline doesn't off himself and we get to coordi a day earlier, but as I'm not about at end of day ever on euro time, I don't think I could have influenced that

Yea the time zones have to be tough I agree

It is easy to be right with a couple of reads as a wolf but then sigh and go along with the majority. This isn't very clearing.

Last game the 05-06 redux I had 3 correct reads the whole game one villager and my two wolf partners.

My biggest concern atm is that the wolves have 3 kills tonight; the team kill, vig kill and JOAT kill. There have been 5 wolf kills so far out of a max of 7, so it is entirely possible the wolf vig lost his rand already and the JOAT hasn't fired.

My hope is that the JOAT or the wolf vig fired at Books last night. I guess it is what it is and I shouldn't worry about it.

sixfour what is your case on gus?

I really struggle to see any sort of wolf team where he's not a member, it kind of feels like it should include him, given how when I did pop in on day 2 it was a village/village thing between shortline and dustin, and the only people on gus were a dead villager and as clear a villager as you're going to get. It could have got some traction but really didn't, which is obvious in the event gus is a wolf

So who else is on your wolf team?

Looks something like gus, river, probably crossnerd, two of felix/atakdog/ykw/nich leaning toward the earlier in the list. Can't rule out yourself, kruze or jonny completely but that's where I'd start

So out of 10 possible wolves, every team includes gus?

I'll go back and read, but I feel like the flavor of the writeup indicated the NK last night was a vig rather than wolf kill

I'd also be incredibly surprised if the JOAT didn't use his shot already. If I'm JOAT, I'm basically always going peek n1, fire n2, and use the other 2 as needed. I don't see a reason to do otherwise really.

Compare the flavor write up of bigger to traz n1

aaronk you had me as a top 2 wolf earlier do you want to expound on that some? on reread i thought we had a quite similar d2 and that was what made me find you so villagery

Yeah I agree, that JOAT should go peek, fire, maybe even fire, peek in this game with two non-wolf night kills possible. Missing out on a kill by the wolves is awful so they can't risk a random shot on the JOAT.

and jdalla n2 was clearly wolf as well

Would never say never but I'm thinking it's extremely likely. I'd have a harder time believing something like cn/river/atakdog/kruze/ykw

Day 4: Automated Votals from #2878 to #2893

riverfish1 (2): KruZe (23), wdcbooks (13)
gusmahler (1): sixfour (8)
Felix the Cat (1): gusmahler (12)
UNVOTE (1): dmk (36)
Not voting (10): aaronk56 (12), atakdog (0), Crossnerd (0), Felix the Cat (21), jonnyd (61), Kukraprout (40), Nicholasp27 (16), riverfish1 (12), YouKnowWho (6), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 7h28m. Hammer at 8.

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if there's a holstered JOAT kill that happens tonight that'd be pretty brutal but like you said it is what it is. not like we can really reliably wolf vig/wolf joat hunt

so n2
sun vig'd dustin
wolf vig'd sun
sk capped mrs jonny
wolfteam killed jdalla

so anyway, it's possible there's 1 extra wk incoming i think, but it doesn't change the number of mislynches we have (1), so no point in worrying much about it

i can't believe we don't have our backup seer. something in the back of my mind said it was birdman, but i kept reading his role post and it just said vanilla so i was like ok guess not. blech

i thought it was easy to miss because it was a delayed flavor writeup

definitely deflating because the backup really helped our EV/had the potential to provide a lot of clarity going fwd

because of this, i pretty strongly think the village RB should claim now. if there's no counterclaim, believe him for the rest of the game. if there is a counterclaim, then you guys are just gonna have to iron that one out.

i'll be real, if crossnerd claims RB, i 100% will never believe it and she needs to die

if river claims it today and there's no counterclaim (or even if there is, and depending on who claims), we should lynch crossnerd and you guys are gonna have to figure that **** out. but wolves only get to try to save one wolf that way, so :shrug:

I didn't like your reaction to coordi's fake claim along with a bad feeling about you without really re-reading anything you had said.

I've almost completely turned around on you now, because of two reasons:

1) you are working hard today; and

2) I remembered that just because I reacted one way to coordi (my reaction lol, fake) not every other villager will react the same way.