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'07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters '07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters

06-25-2020 , 02:56 PM
ok after rereading the shorty/jdalla stuff a lot of his posting feels like he felt caught but for the wrong reasons

shortline
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06-25-2020 , 02:57 PM
I would like to note that there was a Kruze mini-wagon last night that got derailed that I was pretty happy with. If aao and Jdalla were villagers then we have to have voted for wolves at some point.

That being said . . . Why is anyone voting for someone not named Shortline? If I could majority him right now I would do it. His “claim” is unresolvable qnd doing anything other than retiring him is ridiculous.

Focus people!
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06-25-2020 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
If you were a wolf here would you just stop posting or do you realistically think you have a chance of avoiding being lynched?
If so you'll have to put in more work than just encouraging people to vote.
i very much think i have a chance of avoiding being lynched. it's also just a bad lynch because you will lose a villager and gain no info. you waste d2 and learn nothing, and then three more villas prob die at night.

if there's a wolf here looking at these wagons, with the knowledge i'm a villager, they 100% stop posting, and that's exactly what has happened. you want more posts and more learning, you have to actually vote people and make wolves think they actually have a chance at dying.

i gave my wolf list before. it's gonna be much too late to chase people on my list when 4 more villagers are dead. this game is nearly locked for the wolves if we're committed to not voting/posting and they have 24 hr chat.
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06-25-2020 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix the Cat
fine, here's a vote: atakdog

half because he spent an inordinate amount of time yesterday reacting to getting a couple votes by freaking out about how bad of a shun he'd be and how we should arbitrarily vote Crossnerd specifically (and not any of the several other low-participation people, myself included)

half because the sudden CFD onto JDalla instead of atakdog by people who didn't want to vote aao (or be seen voting aao) was very very interesting and I'm curious how the voting dynamics would work if he's a wagon (if we happen to get real wagons today)

sadly I think he was not a great silence by the peacekeeper... but silence just isn't a good villa power.
I am not sure I even get the silence power. I would definitely silence Luckbox, but who would be a good target? Could VR as mod give forum wide silencing powers? I would love to silence mets.
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06-25-2020 , 03:00 PM
if anyone's curious, I feel a bit better about Tokyo!!'s posting since my case on him yesterday.
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06-25-2020 , 03:03 PM
i'm gonna mets it pretty soon and vote myself. this is the most atrocious waste of a day for the most atrocious waste of a reason. you expect me to have something concrete to say in my defense - but i have no defense because i've been accused of being a wolf for someone else claiming they shot me and me not dying. so not even anything i did or didn't do. there's no resolution on jdalla's role or claim. he could even be a vanilla wolf! all of you have absolutely no ***** idea, but it's evidence for my role?

and then people are coming in trying to claim there's "no other option" for today, giving wolves a completely free pass to share zero info in the thread while a villager gets lynched? are you kidding?

you played bad yesterday. you're playing terrible today. own it, village. traz was disappoint. now i am too.
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06-25-2020 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
If you assume jdalla is telling the truth, 1 is unlikely. 2nd place got choice of angel or roleblock. For a villager who came in 2nd, it's safer to roleblock the likely winner than angel a random. If a wolf got 2nd, they had 2 roleblocks.

4 doesn't work because it's not an NK. 7 doesn't work because we're assuming jdalla isn't lying. That leaves:

6 is actually >10 entries. I don't think there were 15 entries. There may have been 11, but it didn't seem like it.

5 means shorty is a wolf. But 2 and 3 are neutral wrt shorty. Either a villager 2nd place or a wolf 2nd place could have guessed that jdalla was going to win and decided to roleblock him.

2 or 3 seems more likely than 5, so I don't think Shorty surviving proves that he is a wolf.
if (when) shorty flips wolf, gus dies next
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06-25-2020 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix the Cat
if anyone's curious, I feel a bit better about Tokyo!!'s posting since my case on him yesterday.
same. i liked your case but his posting has been great and i have him as one of my top villagers
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06-25-2020 , 03:06 PM
Day 2: Automated Votals from #1609 to #1633

shortline99 (5): JDalla (19), dmk (39), Tokyo!! (34), wdcbooks (15), jonnyd (7)
crackedquads (1): shortline99 (44)
Crossnerd (1): Luckbox Inc (38)
gusmahler (1): Kukraprout (42)
dmk (1): coordi (7)
jonnyd (1): gusmahler (11)
Not voting (14): aaronk56 (7), atakdog (0), biggerboat (0), crackedquads (0), Crossnerd (0), Felix The Cat (0), KruZe (0), mrs. jonnyd (0), Nicholasp27 (0), riverfish1 (0), sixfour (0), Sun Tzu (1), YouKnowWho (11), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 5h53m. Hammer at 13.

Vote history:
Spoiler:
jonnyd (1): shortline99

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06-25-2020 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wdcbooks
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That being said . . . Why is anyone voting for someone not named Shortline? If I could majority him right now I would do it. His “claim” is unresolvable qnd doing anything other than retiring him is ridiculous.

Focus people!
You probably mean that as hyperbole but ending the day early at this point of the game would be horrible. We shouldnt maj even if we had a peeked wolf.
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06-25-2020 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
if (when) shorty flips wolf, gus dies next
gus is one of my top two wolves

what is this cognitive dissonance

this ++++++ increases jonny and gus are wolves together odds
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06-25-2020 , 03:07 PM
requoting my wolf list and adding jonny as the mystery wolf

Crackedquads
Gus
Dmk
Kruze
Coordi
jonnyd
One of Jdalla / atakdog

don't lose this post after i inevitably get lunched or shot
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06-25-2020 , 03:08 PM
I hope shorty is a villager but I assume that will also just make people want to lynch me more. Probably if he is wolf too though.
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06-25-2020 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by shortline99
gus is one of my top two wolves

what is this cognitive dissonance

this ++++++ increases jonny and gus are wolves together odds
he's singleton voting me and i just said i want him dead. i dont see how our roles are connected in any way.

IF youre a villager, why would wolves ever bus in this game state with the thread in disarray
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06-25-2020 , 03:09 PM
Sun Tzu,
Do you still think I'm a wolf?
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06-25-2020 , 03:09 PM
Reminder that we should read traz and birdman. They were probably right about lots of things. I'll do it later.
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06-25-2020 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
same. i liked your case but his posting has been great and i have him as one of my top villagers
I'm not going that far personally, a lot of the activity today has been role-neutral mechanics analysis and puzzle-solving. I did like his summary of reasoning for his reads, it's nice and concise, makes sense, feels honest. That plus other non-mechanics posts from him are a good antidote for my d1 feeling that he was agenda-posting.
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06-25-2020 , 03:09 PM
you all got mega ultra leveled today obsessing over me when there is probably a ton to learn from the late wagons last night

good luck
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06-25-2020 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by shortline99
requoting my wolf list and adding jonny as the mystery wolf

Crackedquads
Gus
Dmk
Kruze
Coordi
jonnyd
One of Jdalla / atakdog

don't lose this post after i inevitably get lunched or shot
Don't worry. I'm planning on just rolling through all these names. Except for crackedquads. He's a villager.
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06-25-2020 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
he's singleton voting me and i just said i want him dead. i dont see how our roles are connected in any way.

IF youre a villager, why would wolves ever bus in this game state with the thread in disarray
then vote him, not me

otherwise your words are totally meaningless

"vote [villager today], then vote [wolf] tomorrow" is classic wolf
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06-25-2020 , 03:11 PM
if you guys still think i'm posting like there's six other wolves trying to protect me or that i'm trying to protect, you're out of your minds

i'm also not the SK, thanks for asking
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06-25-2020 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
Reminder that we should read traz and birdman. They were probably right about lots of things. I'll do it later.
This is silly. Except Birdman would have been all set for CN today and she probably should go.
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06-25-2020 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by shortline99
then vote him, not me

otherwise your words are totally meaningless

"vote [villager today], then vote [wolf] tomorrow" is classic wolf
i'll happily vote gus today if he becomes a viable lynch candidate
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06-25-2020 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by shortline99
you all got mega ultra leveled today obsessing over me when there is probably a ton to learn from the late wagons last night

good luck
There isn't though. I'm a villager, Jdalla pretty much has to he a villager. So it was v/v/v.
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06-25-2020 , 03:16 PM
gusmahler

go for it. these wagons are trash anyway. 5 votes for me and maximum one on the others?
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