If the vig was blocked last night he knows he is out. His only option is to gamble and claim he blocked X, hoping X is the real roleblocker about to claim.

Also another wolf can claim with the vig as his block, and we'll have no way of resolving the claim.

That’s why the rb needs to come out soon

Wolves can claim either way

nich what does river flipping villa do to your theoretical wolf team (if anything)

and also if you want to share your thoughts on who the wolves are outside the context of 'this wagon contains 0-2 wolves' i think that could clear some things up for me for you. (even if the reasoning is still wagonomics id just like to hear some other insights from you)

Yeah I’ll go back on pc in a bit and update it for the new info

I know it does mean there was a max of 2 wolves on shorty (coordi and potentially sixfour)

From memory I think it means wolves just weren’t around voting the top wagons on d2; they didn’t care then cfd on a wolf happened

I’m pretty sure we can narrow it down quite a bit to a good wolf list so I’ll do that in a bit

christ, that was a bad result

sadly don't have a huge amount of time today as i'll be building a new pc, i'll probably just consider the position and try to work out what's going on, i would guess that crossnerd should be one of the options, but will wait and see what happens

Day 5: Automated Votals from #3125 to #3131

Crossnerd (1): aaronk56 (5)
Not voting (12): atakdog (2), Crossnerd (0), Felix the Cat (0), gusmahler (1), jonnyd (15), KruZe (0), Kukraprout (14), Nicholasp27 (4), sixfour (1), wdcbooks (4), YouKnowWho (0), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 7h33m. Hammer at 7.

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I agree that the roleblocker needs to claim.


I am not the roleblocker.

dang, when binkles was posting I almost started pushing for a cross CFD cause he felt villagery but I just couldn't do it cause I really was reading riverfish woof, sorry bankles

Took care of work much earlier today and will finally have some nice time to be here. Let's talk, and talk a lot.

No it is not. What happened yesterday shows exactly why this game is a one-time thing and why we shouldn't keep playing WW and leave it for students and young adults without families and what not.

In a sense of this game, I completely dropped the ball by not posting almost the entire weekend - but in a sense of real life, I had an amazing time and wouldn't change a thing, so it's like.. I don't know. I do feel bad, but I don't feel guilty, if that makes sense, even though yesterday (and this entire game, really) is as much on me and other low posters as it is on anyone else. You are definitely one of the best of us.

Even though I completely agree with this particular vote, I feel like on principe we should be careful with voting - the hammer is at 7 and there are still 5 wolves.

What he said.

Though I agree on jonnyd, I am not so sure about Felix. I was sure that he is a wolf before his ton of effort, obviously that has changed things a bit, but at this stage of the game I am not clearing anyone for "the amount of work I put in". Will go reread.

I like the fact that you are thinking outside the "consensus wolf pack" as someone has called it and entertaining various possibilities, but you are not correct.

I was in a pretty horrible spot yesterday - came in basically without reading the thread for one and a half days and too tired to catch up. Is it anyone else's problem but mine? No, but it was what it was. I did not find river wolfy before and I stated as much in a completely transparent way. I asked ITT what was the case on him and got directed to Kukra's post. Even then, I did say that part of the case was things that made me lean villa on River, but the TMI stuff seemed really bad and not something I had noticed before. So I had options to either stick with my own reads from earlier (i. e. without 1.5 days of info) or to stick with what the village consensus was. If I was in another situation (i. e. not midnight, not exhausted) maybe I would spend some time reading and form my own opinion on river, but I didn't have time nor energy for that, so I didn't - but I said as much ITT. By the way, if river would have flipped wolf I would have then been on a chopping block for NOT voting him.

In my mind, aaronk is a clear villager. However, the longer we go into the game the more I realize I am basically tunnel-clearing him for one particular act, rather than anything else, and that act can theoretically be performed also by a wolf. But similarly how you feel about jonnyd, I feel about aaron - if they are wolves, well played and what can you do.

I feel very strongly about CN, Kruze and 64 and quite strongly about atak. The fifth one I want to say is Felix, but I feel much less strongly about that than I did a couple days ago, as mentioned above.

Even though I agree on principle that RB will have to claim, I feel you guys are being too optimistic - the claim and then the inevitable counter claim (if not more than one) will put us in quite a dreadful situation with the game of the line. I guess good players shine in clutch situations, so we will have to figure it out.

What did you say? I don't speak howl.

have some things to do irl so afk for a few hours, my vote will be going to crossnerd

Hi YKW. I never complain about people being low posters or not around, since I'm often that way.

I don't think my attempted switch off of aao Day 1 is clearing at all. My reaction to your post the next morning I think is clearing though but that's because I know I post more carefully when I'm a wolf and would have read the whole thing rather than going off on the first sentence.

I also think CN, 64, and Kruze are the way to go, but that may change with more info. LDO

Another graduate of my how to be a wolf without really trying class. You and CN make me proud.

I said:
And he proves his vaunted late game skills by posting:

Even more villa points for jonnyd as he solo made KruZe spew like crazy.

Let's begin a little bit earlier though:

Quite a curious list but ok, everyone has their reads. I am a wolf in this - not some measly orange, but actual red wolf.

They keep discussing things ITT, including multiple posts related in some way or another to me:

This quote is curious mainly for being the first of many where he claims that he will shine in the "late game", "coming days", etc. I would say current situation is quite late game, wouldn't you say? KruZe again nowhere to be found.

Anyway, not much later and without pretty much anything happening, jonnyd posts his list:

which KruZe likes:

Sir, you just posted a list where I was a wolf and now saw a list where I was in the second tier of villagers and didn't even bat an eye? I am higher than most of your orange folk and higher than you in that list, and that didn't cause any sort of response from you other than that you like this list?

I feel like you haven't actually read it, like you didn't actually read most of the thread, because you didn't really have to - this game was just a walk in a park for you guys so far, with us shooting us in the foot over and over again.

Touche.

HERE COMES THE MOST DISAPPOINTING CLAIM EVER:

I am the village roleblocker. It sucks that it’s me because I was already triple lock clear.

Sorry to keep everyone waiting. If wolves were considering claiming I did not want to stop them. Almost everyone has already posted today so it does not look like it’s happening.

I blocked:
Bobo n1
Coordi n2
Atakdog n3
Atakdog n4

Not really a game changer.

I left some hints and a code. They’re probably not needed.

Day 5: Automated Votals from #3132 to #3143

Crossnerd (1): aaronk56 (7)
Not voting (12): atakdog (3), Crossnerd (0), Felix the Cat (0), gusmahler (2), jonnyd (15), KruZe (2), Kukraprout (15), Nicholasp27 (4), sixfour (1), wdcbooks (4), YouKnowWho (4), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 6h33m. Hammer at 7.

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Roleblocker can't block the same person on consecutive nights, though.

See above

The excitement is palpable.

Anyways: we lunch crossnerd and atak, order does not matter. Two days from now (assuming no lol game over), it's:

aaronk56
Felix the Cat
gusmahler
jonnyd
KruZe
Nicholasp27
sixfour
YouKnowWho

5 villagers
3 wolves

And we're most certainly screwed.

OR:
We take advantage of having cleared villager to lead a wagon on a less obvious candidate. And we keep the easy votes for later. Problem is, that would require me and books to find a wolf.

lol wat

Yup I knew you were the roleblocker. It would only make sense to delay if it were you or Jonny. Given that info I think we have to go atakdog today. Also hold on because I have to go find a villagery post and quote it.

I'd say:
- some rule clarifications are in order, regarding the hypothetical submission of an invalid night action
- carefully reading your own role description is underrated