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'07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters '07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters

06-28-2020 , 08:00 PM
Is there any 'must know' mechanical info I should be aware of. Peeks, SHC, etc.?
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06-28-2020 , 08:01 PM
Binkles should I just save you the hour and vote you so you can hammer
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06-28-2020 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousMother
*****MOD NOTE*****

captain binkles will be subbing in for riverfish1.

For today, please cast any votes as "riverfish" not "captain binkles"


*****MOD NOTE*****
Hopefully that means I don't end up with this probable mislynch hurting my stats :P
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06-28-2020 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
Binkles should I just save you the hour and vote you so you can hammer
Nah I need to make a gamesolving list for the bragging rights

Is there anyone I should be focusing on? Otherwise I'll just skim some EODs or something
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06-28-2020 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Nah I need to make a gamesolving list for the bragging rights

Is there anyone I should be focusing on? Otherwise I'll just skim some EODs or something

Books (claim) dmk and kukra (seer hunt) are clear

That’s about it
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06-28-2020 , 08:05 PM
I will say that, theoretically speaking, wagon numbers like this point to the village being in big trouble (given I am a villager - appreciate not everyone has this info) - and I get the feeling very few players have been forced to make real reads or be put in positions to prove their villageryness (or lack of) because of inertia
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06-28-2020 , 08:07 PM
If I'm reading right, this silence thing on atak isn't a wolf mechanic and likely not indicative of his alignment?
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06-28-2020 , 08:08 PM
That's weird.


I suppose there's an argument for giving binkles a day, but since that leads to a me-wagon I don't think I"ll push the idea too hard.


I am here for a few minutes.
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06-28-2020 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk
also, i have a really hard time believing kruze is a villager

posting lolraptors all day...i seriously doubt that was an actual posting restriction, so why do it?

because dustin died as nedry? i don't know why he would be doing that otherwise - maybe just a vanilla wolf tryign to draw attn away from others, i dunno. friggin bizarre
grunch: stuff like that was within kruze's villa range last time I played with him. I very clearly remember being constantly mad about it until I decided to ignore it and let kruze be kruze. That's one of the few player-specific things I still remember from back in the day.
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06-28-2020 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
If I'm reading right, this silence thing on atak isn't a wolf mechanic and likely not indicative of his alignment?
Books silenced me, and his claim is unrebutted. I think that makes it alignment-neutral. Also sort of funny.
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06-28-2020 , 08:09 PM
Day 4: Automated Votals from #2998 to #3009

riverfish1 (6): KruZe (1), wdcbooks (1), aaronk56 (0), YouKnowWho (0), dmk (0), Kukraprout (4)
KruZe (1): Crossnerd (0)
gusmahler (1): sixfour (1)
Felix the Cat (1): gusmahler (0)
Not voting (6): atakdog (1), Felix the Cat (1), jonnyd (2), Nicholasp27 (0), riverfish1 (0), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 0h50m. Hammer at 8.

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06-28-2020 , 08:14 PM
Hey atak, if I was off the table here, who should be the vote?
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06-28-2020 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
That's kind of a convenient crosspost - in theory this is fine, but do you really think they all go AFK if they're all wolves in this spot?
riverbinkles is a wolf: no compelling reason to post if they haven't been posting so far

riverbinkles is a villa: no compelling reason to post if they haven't been posting so far

In other words, given that they haven't been posting so far, continuing to not post should have no impact on our reads one way or the other.
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06-28-2020 , 08:16 PM
Hi captain binkles! Long time no see!
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06-28-2020 , 08:17 PM
Hey Felix, how are ya?

I saw you made a super long post about why you should probably be a wagon, and I'm just assuming you're a villager. Fair?

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Is there any compelling reason for gus to be a villager? Because it kind of looks like coordi busses the **** out of him
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06-28-2020 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
Can someone pls give a brief on why riverfish? I had him as strong villa lean earlier because he was wrong on pretty much everything ITT, and wolves just dont do that I think. I really cant read the entire 1.5 days worth of posts so please someone help me out here
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
found it, thanks. It's curious, as some of the same things that Kukra used to build his case, I used in my mind to give river a villa lean earlier, thinking he cant possibly be this wrong the entire game. What I missed and Kukra spotted, is that he was NOT wrong the entire game - the TMI part is really interesting when you see that it was not just once, but multiple times.

I could see river = wolf, but I am not very comfortable because I feel like I am just sheeping instead of making my own analysis. But kukra is clear, so at least I know I am not being manipulated, and if its wrong, its wrong, its wrong, what can you do. unless something happens, I will lock on river at :30 and go to bed, let's talk until then.
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riverfish1 and good night.
what in tarnation is this

YKW firmly back on my naughty list
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06-28-2020 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Hey atak, if I was off the table here, who should be the vote?
I'm convinced that crossnerd is a wolf; I know she is implicitly citing irl concerns but she's clearly been engaged enough in the game to try to win something by posting in character, and she seems to have lied about having read the thread. (I think dmk pointed this out.) A villager would at least have explained herself regarding the early in-character bullshit without any more substance, I think.
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06-28-2020 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix the Cat
what in tarnation is this

YKW firmly back on my naughty list

Feels icky no matter what riverbinks flips, I agree
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06-28-2020 , 08:25 PM
Like I don't have time for a huge spew analysis, but if you go back and look at how coordi talks about known villagers, it's very different to how he talks about gus

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Originally Posted by coordi
My vote is exactly where it needs to be considering the count.

I'd be fine fire drilling gus, but no one seems interested.
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I've been on gus all game and no one gives him any mind while he makes what are legitimately the worst posts in the game
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Also no need to peek gus as he basically posts lolcats, but whatever
Like I'm obviously not saying gus should go purely because of these posts or anything.

But I think there's a decent chance this is a wolf who knows they're "right" about something and way overstating their read as a result. Particularly because it looks like coordi tries to go into antispew on d2 given the seer claim.
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06-28-2020 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
I'm convinced that crossnerd is a wolf; I know she is implicitly citing irl concerns but she's clearly been engaged enough in the game to try to win something by posting in character, and she seems to have lied about having read the thread. (I think dmk pointed this out.) A villager would at least have explained herself regarding the early in-character bullshit without any more substance, I think.

If you could give us even 3 other reads than xnerd or the cleared that’d be amazing
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06-28-2020 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Like I don't have time for a huge spew analysis, but if you go back and look at how coordi talks about known villagers, it's very different to how he talks about gus







Like I'm obviously not saying gus should go purely because of these posts or anything.

But I think there's a decent chance this is a wolf who knows they're "right" about something and way overstating their read as a result. Particularly because it looks like coordi tries to go into antispew on d2 given the seer claim.

Coordi made similar “he makes no sense” posts about Tokyo who effectively was a villa as far as coordi knew
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06-28-2020 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
I'm convinced that crossnerd is a wolf; I know she is implicitly citing irl concerns but she's clearly been engaged enough in the game to try to win something by posting in character, and she seems to have lied about having read the thread. (I think dmk pointed this out.) A villager would at least have explained herself regarding the early in-character bullshit without any more substance, I think.
Thanks. I haven't read any xnerd posts so can't really comment.

What's your take on felix, sixfour, ykw, gus?

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Originally Posted by jonnyd
Coordi made similar “he makes no sense” posts about Tokyo who effectively was a villa as far as coordi knew
They were a bit different from what I could tell - he had a post addressing tokyo that felt very tonally different. Let me find it
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06-28-2020 , 08:30 PM
Day 4: Automated Votals from #3010 to #3022

riverfish1 (6): KruZe (1), wdcbooks (1), aaronk56 (0), YouKnowWho (0), dmk (0), Kukraprout (4)
KruZe (1): Crossnerd (0)
gusmahler (1): sixfour (1)
Felix the Cat (1): gusmahler (0)
Not voting (6): atakdog (2), Felix the Cat (4), jonnyd (5), Nicholasp27 (0), riverfish1 (0), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 0h29m. Hammer at 8.

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06-28-2020 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Hey Felix, how are ya?

I saw you made a super long post about why you should probably be a wagon, and I'm just assuming you're a villager. Fair?

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Is there any compelling reason for gus to be a villager? Because it kind of looks like coordi busses the **** out of him
I'm good, you? Bad luck to be subbed into a game an hour before being the consensus vote.

Fair.

There's no compelling reason. You're referring to the d1 vote, d2 push + vote right? I had read that as mildly good for gusmahler. It's basically the only strong case that coordi ever makes against anyone (before he's outed d3) and it's the sort of low-effort case I see a wolf making to demonstrate that he's totally itt looking for wolves. w/w isn't impossible though. gusmahler never responded specifically to coordi d1/d2 that I could see. I'm going to reread gusmahler anyways (maybe not before EOD though), and I'll pay special attention to whether not responding to coordi pushing him is significant.
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06-28-2020 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
If you could give us even 3 other reads than xnerd or the cleared that’d be amazing
Problem is I can't, not with any conviction, but I'll try. Since the first day, when I was engaged (and pretty wrong about a lot of stuff), I haven't been. I can say that just about everyone who's posting a lot seems villagery.


I have said and still believe that Nich is village. And I've gotten good vibes from felix's posting, though I can't recall why.


Sixfour is playing a sixfour wolf game, but that's moderately close to his village game so meh. And aaronk's meta has always allowed him to post as he is now in any role. I do believe both of them are wolves but that's not much of a case, I get that.


It's hard to be objective about people who want to lynch me. I will say that it makes total sense to think I'm wolfy, but none at all to think I am a definite wolf. But that's not exactly an unbiased view.
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