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'07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters '07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters

06-28-2020 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
By the way if someone could explain why aaron is NOT a lock villa for that vote switch maybe I would learn something about werewolfing. To me, I just don't see how a wolf would ever do that in that situation.
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Originally Posted by dmk
who cares, move on
lol, i remember this. at the time i thought YKW was really trying to force down an aaron=v peek and i wanted him to stfu and move on
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06-28-2020 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
My take on buckets:

People that I trust pretty much completely at this point:

aaronk56 - I am not ever voting him this game for the last second vote switch on d1. If he is a wolf and that was a bamboozle, well so be it, I'll bow my hat.

Kukraprout - I don't have a specific reason to lock-clear him, but he has been giving villagery vibe for the entire game and provided solid logic. Maybe not a lock, but in this situation where we have to find a wolf it feels close to a lock.

Tokyo - very similar reasons to Kukra.

People that I lean villager:

riverfish1 - for reasons explained in my last post, I personally don't see him being a wolf, but it is just a very subjective read based on my own experience as a wolf and thus I cannot put him in the category above.

Wdcbooks - solid logic and effort for most of the game, nothing that stood out as wolfy. I have no history with him that I can remember so not sure how good of a wolf he is, but it is certainly in a realm of possibility for a good wolfer to have a game like this, hence not putting him in the lock category.

johnnyd - similar reasons to books above.

biggerboat - I do not have a good read on bigger, I admit. Early in the game I had very small wolf lean on him for what I thought was going for an easy target in me, but afterwards I had seen nothing that would support this feel. It feels like he has increased his effort the longer the game goes, which in a game like this where we are just demolishing ourselves and wolves don't have to do anything feels very villagery.

Biggest enigmas:

atakdog - with each moment of his absence I want to call him wolf more and more, but when he posted, I thought he was villagery. PLEASE POST MORE.

crackedquads - probably have to re-read more closely but I cannot get any sort of read on him. Guidance on this one appreciated.

Felix the Cat - again, when he posted, in seemed quite villagery, but he has posted very little. If I am remembering correctly, Felix is more than capable of making good, logical posts as wolf, so coupled with low posting it makes me a bit uncomfortable. PLEASE POST MORE.

Gusmahler - I know that he has posted, but for the live of me I cannot remember any of it. Will re-read, but in general theory this is not a good sign.

Nicholas - come to think of it, Nich might be my biggest disappointment in this game, as I remember him as a guy who solved some games almost singlehandedly and he is almost a non-factor this game. I haven't seen him wolf I don't think, so not sure if such low-impact is more indicative of his wolf game. When he posted, I liked his reasoning, that's why he is in the enigma and not lean-wolf group.

Dmk - I have been flipping on him in my head the entire game, but based just on feel. I just don't know. Again, guidance appreciated.

People that I lean wolf based on todays re-read:

coordi
Sixfour

Based on general tone and inconsistency. Will try to go back and provide examples.

People that are for sure wolves:

Kruze
Crossnerd

For reasons I've already stated like 15 times.
for real, this is a pretty ****ing hot take relatively early d3...
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06-28-2020 , 02:50 PM
Day 4: Automated Votals from #2894 to #2927

riverfish1 (2): KruZe (23), wdcbooks (13)
gusmahler (1): sixfour (10)
Felix the Cat (1): gusmahler (12)
UNVOTE (1): dmk (55)
Not voting (10): aaronk56 (14), atakdog (0), Crossnerd (0), Felix the Cat (21), jonnyd (69), Kukraprout (42), Nicholasp27 (16), riverfish1 (12), YouKnowWho (6), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 6h9m. Hammer at 8.

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06-28-2020 , 02:52 PM
that there's so few votes right now is pretty worrying
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06-28-2020 , 02:55 PM
I'm awake

rawwrrr
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06-28-2020 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
Cordii—>CN/KruZe/Felix—>KruZe/CN/Felix—>Felix/KruZe/CN—> re-evaluate but probably 64/atakdog.

Four wolves on a platter, surely we can’t **** this up at least until they are gone?
however, he never mentions felix between that reads post and this one, and suddenly he's got felix up in front of 64 (who was listed as wolf lean) and atak (who was also an "enigma" w/ felix)

at no point does he really explain WHY he moved felix up in front of gus, nich, 64, atak, or CQ, he just kind of has put him there and hard pushes that as if it was always his read

he hasn't posted anything insanely wolfy, but he spent most of the entire game just harping on kruze/CN and thats about it. the sudden need to list more people and trying to mindmeld with the bump on felix just feels weird
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06-28-2020 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
that there's so few votes right now is pretty worrying
gus isn't even in the conversation today, why are you bothering leaving your vote on him?
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06-28-2020 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk
gus isn't even in the conversation today, why are you bothering leaving your vote on him?
there's five hours until night and nobody has more than two votes, more or less everyone is in the conversation, if we're just lynching riverfish and moving on to tomorrow then i'll just log off now i guess?
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06-28-2020 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
there's five hours until night and nobody has more than two votes, more or less everyone is in the conversation, if we're just lynching riverfish and moving on to tomorrow then i'll just log off now i guess?
did you make a strong case on him that i missed?
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06-28-2020 , 03:03 PM
Alive Player total post counts:

dmk-243
Kukraprout-220
jonnyd-185
aaronk56-122
wdcbooks-106
riverfish1-76
YouKnowWho-73
KruZe-72
Felix the Cat-62
Crossnerd-61
Nicholasp2-46
sixfour-42
gusmahler-39
atakdog-31
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06-28-2020 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
OK, here's a thought - do we think that all of these are playing quietly as wolves? I find it hard to believe that where the village are seemingly very close to implosion that they'd have all of them keeping shut rather than trying to sew seeds of doubt amongst everyone. I'm not sure what this means in terms of river, if things continue as is, either they're happy with it as we're all wrong on river, or he's not a power role (e.g. at this stage if the wolves have a roleblocker what use is it anyway) that they're happy to off and just try to keep more useful powers alive that might clinch things
My point regarding riverfish is that he disappeared since he's taken heat and became the vote.

Atakdog was way more active in the first rand, for the short time the thread was up.

Crossnerd I have no idea.

Anyway I completely disagree with that take. If riverfish is a wolf they certaintly didnt expect him to be the village vote today, and they have to discuss it in wolfchat before deciding how they act. So I'd expect a lot of them would avoid the thread.
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06-28-2020 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk
did you make a strong case on him that i missed?
can't say that i have on top of what i've said today. if the majority think there's a better case against river, then that's agreeable, but i think they're in the same boat to be honest
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06-28-2020 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
My point regarding riverfish is that he disappeared since he's taken heat and became the vote.

Atakdog was way more active in the first rand, for the short time the thread was up.

Crossnerd I have no idea.

Anyway I completely disagree with that take. If riverfish is a wolf they certaintly didnt expect him to be the village vote today, and they have to discuss it in wolfchat before deciding how they act. So I'd expect a lot of them would avoid the thread.
They might have sent sixfour to try to take one for the team to save riverfish if he's a power wolf.
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06-28-2020 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
can't say that i have on top of what i've said today. if the majority think there's a better case against river, then that's agreeable, but i think they're in the same boat to be honest
well, you're kind of doing this "if its just going ot be river i'll just vote him and leave", but you're not exactly making some huge case for the person you're voting for either
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06-28-2020 , 03:51 PM
Day 4: Automated Votals from #2928 to #2939

riverfish1 (2): KruZe (25), wdcbooks (13)
gusmahler (1): sixfour (13)
Felix the Cat (1): gusmahler (12)
UNVOTE (1): dmk (59)
Not voting (10): aaronk56 (15), atakdog (0), Crossnerd (0), Felix the Cat (21), jonnyd (69), Kukraprout (43), Nicholasp27 (16), riverfish1 (12), YouKnowWho (6), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 5h8m. Hammer at 8.

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06-28-2020 , 04:04 PM
EOD is 3AM for me. In a couple of hours I'll be sleeping and my vote will be locked. Since we need the entire village on the same wagon I guess this means the village vote will be locked too.

So: if riverfish wants to try something, now would be a good time.
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06-28-2020 , 04:06 PM
riverfish
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06-28-2020 , 04:07 PM
I'll be around for eod.
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06-28-2020 , 04:21 PM
I'll be around for another couple of hours but I'm watching something right now
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06-28-2020 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
EOD is 3AM for me. In a couple of hours I'll be sleeping and my vote will be locked. Since we need the entire village on the same wagon I guess this means the village vote will be locked too.

So: if riverfish wants to try something, now would be a good time.
sounds like you and books will both be locked. i'll be around, but i'll vote river and really, i'm fine w/ lynching him even if he claims RB because if 2 of our 3 basically confirmed villagers can't change, i'm not changing
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06-28-2020 , 04:28 PM
kruze
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06-28-2020 , 04:28 PM
if it gets maj'd or something and i don't have the opportunity to post later, i've made my top 3 pretty clear

after that, i think kruze is a wolf. and after that, ugh. i really want to say YKW because he hasn't really done anything. but then, most everyone left hasn't

gun to head, i'd call aaron/jonny villagers. beyond that, i really don't know

kruze is apparently here, but in the 2 hours he's been here, he posted everyone's post count and that's it...so yeah...

and sixfour had an opportunity to really elaborate on why he wants to vote out gus, but yeah...

i'm inclined to just vote out all the unhelpful people and if one of the people actually putting in work today happens to be a wolf, then gg, you deserve it
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06-28-2020 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
kruze
lol, do not vote xnerd today, just vote river. xnerd tomorrow
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06-28-2020 , 04:30 PM
I'm here, briefly. Sadly, the game hasn't fit mys schedule very well, or rather the other way around. The reason I got "salty" (books's words) about getting silenced the first time was that I had a block of time aside for the game; the second time was really just funny, and didn't cost me too much posting.


I will vote however the cleared villagers want me to. I note that it looks like the ppeks aren't 100% clear, because there appear to be three of them when there should be only two. But I don't see any reason to deviate from any of the three.
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06-28-2020 , 04:32 PM
Back from weekend travels with the fam, i am exhausted and its approaching midnight.. not ideal by any means but real life stuff matters too. Has anything happened ITT that would make me change my CN/KRuze/Felix/atakdog/64 wolf team? If not, i will probably put my vote on the one Of those that books/kukra tell me to and go to bed and if im still alive return to regular activity tomorrow from work
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