it's not just about poker players. I'm talking about just normal human beings who are having there freedoms taken away by corporate entitys daily. Just trust me, watch how this will pan out. They'll soon find an excuse to cencor the internet and take away the only true free thing we have. It'll be some bull**** cyber or real terror attack that they stage so they can take it away from us, just watch. You may think it's bull**** but remember readng this post and you'll see and look back and remember that you read about this.

YEA I Agree it has such great effects if someone disagrees with people on this board (OH IM SORRY that must be argumentative) seems some can say whatever they want about someone and thats cool. Once again you can call GOD they got billions in money and someone posted that someone narced these crooks out so they get what the deserve. Years ago UB was charging for internet service in the quise of funded poker accounts is what someone told me.

Sigh

ur a conspiratorial tool

finally something we both agree on

PPA has taken it seriously since before UIGEA passed.

I wish you could realize how hard we all worked on this. It's not as easy as you think.

Hippy Critters for sure. Just like religious groups being against "gambling" but being all for "bingo" cause ti makes them money.

I am sick of all of the hypocrisy.

Need to wipe out the entire Government with our vote.

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Start from scratch like we did in 1776

You can't argue with me, you will fail. You know in your heart I am right, you have no freedom it's worse than china in the USA and it's just as bad here in the UK but atleast a few of us know it.

Don't try and sit there saying ''Oh I wont argue you're a tard blah blah'' cos education in your country is appauling and you're kept dumb so you're just clever enough to use the tills and consume, but not clever enough to question anything.

The truth will set you free, research and educate yourself.

could not have said it better myself

Cool story bro, atleast this conspirational tool isn't a brainwashed moron who believes he has freedom like you do. And this conspirational tool can still accsess his roll unlike you.

Call it conspiracy theories, call it what you want. I don't give a ****, at the end of the day it's the truth and it has to be said.

An American hero of mine George Carlin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

I think someone has watched V for Vendetta one too many times.

So you're saying over time there has been an erosion of our civil liberties? Well, thanks for the newsflash, Captain Obvious. Once again, explain how the 2nd amendment comes into play here again?

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In a regulated system, you will only get to play Chinese players if their government reaches an agreement with the US regarding asset seizures and prosecution. Otherwise, they don't get to play.

That's how international horse racing pools work.

"Regulation" doesn't just mean there is a gaming commission. It means illegal acts can be effectively punished.

Yeah, I read that these indictments were around for a while and under seal. Maybe someone was going to leak that info so the DOJ had to move now, or maybe the DOJ/court keep these indictments under seal until they could get the cooperation of foreign gov and banks before they struck to try and seize accounts and/or arrest and extradition of the indicted.

The DOJ has been looking into online poker sites for sometime now. I can't find the thread atm but a year or so ago there was thread in this forum where the Financial Times were reporting that there was a secret Grand Jury investigating FTP. Yeah, I read that these indictments were around for a while

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Because they'll be coming for your right to bear arms next (if they haven't already)

Everything's being taken away from you day by day bit by bit. If you don't do something now you'll be left defenceless and will have nothing to defend your selves with.

Oh, and by the way, at least Absolute and UB DID launder money, which would suggest that it is possible.

Yes, Stars and Tilt did have regulations to prevent it, but the US government had no power to force them to adhere to those regulations and no way to prosecute if laundering occurred anyway.

Poker sites were gigantic offshore banks. It is delusional to think that federal prosecutors would be unconcerned about this.

bodog i think

In how long, do you think?

Linkies:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...issues-752587/

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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6a9383ea-4...44feabdc0.html

I think people misunderstand the OP. He's not saying overthrow the gov because they took our poker away.

Also anyone who doesn't think our liberties have been eroded away and the U.S. isn't controlled by offshore banks is totally out to lunch.

from this dumpster fire of a thread im not sure if ur laughing at americans or if u think they're ur friends

That's not quite what you said a few posts ago. You essentially said we have a right to bear arms and because of this, we have the power to play poker on the internet.

NEWS RELEASE

For Immediate Distribution


WASHINGTON, DC. (April 16, 2011) – John Pappas, Executive Director of the Poker Players Alliance (PPA), the leading poker grassroots advocacy group with more than one million members nationwide, issued the comment below on behalf of the millions of Americans affected by recent federal action taken against online poker companies.

“Millions of Americans across the country today are outraged over the U.S. Department of Justice’s clear attack on internet poker. While the government’s focus may be on the companies who operate these games, this is plain and simple a declaration of war on poker players and poker players’ freedoms. Not only are the over 10 million online poker players left without a place to play the game they enjoy, and from which many earn their livelihood, but they also have concerns over the availability of their funds. The PPA believes that no players’ money should be jeopardized by this prosecution.

“Let me be clear, online poker is not a crime and the honest poker players across the country will not stand to be restricted from one of America’s greatest pastimes. On behalf of over one million members, the PPA is working hard to protect the interests of our players and is committed to U.S. citizens’ right to play online poker.”


About The Poker Players Alliance
The Poker Players Alliance (www.theppa.org) is a nonprofit membership organization comprised of over 1,000,000 online and offline poker players and enthusiasts from around the United States who have joined together to speak with one voice to promote the game and to protect poker players' rights.

Thank you, atleast there's another intelligent free thinker.

I'm far from laughing at Americans. You don't realise what a beautiful beautiful place your country actually was, sought after, the envy of the world. Now it's just a laughing stock, just complete horrid ***** dips **** corporations and banking cartel controlling everything you see, hear, watch eat, drink. It's a joke. I'm far from laughing at Americans, and I don't need any friends. I'm just stressing, the fact that when I grew up I was always taught that America was the back bone of the world and America was the place of the free where people don't take **** and live how they want. And now look, it's just a ****ing glorified shopping mall (to quote george carlin) ran by insane lunatics and corporate interests.

Laugh all you want, I'm not asking for enemys nor friends, it just really upsets me to see you decent people getting fcked over like this.

No specific prediction, but it will definitely take awhile.

First we will need a poker bill on the federal level. That will take some time.

Then, there will need to be a process for nations with reciprocal regulation to join pools with the US.

Third, the other nations will need to pass poker bills themselves.

This took a long time with horse racing. Indeed, even interstate simulcasting took a long time.

The bright side is the long-term trend favors the expansion of poker, and the end result of this process will be a much more honest game.