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04-15-2011 , 02:00 PM

YoureToast

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NVG has a thread but we need a thread here to solicit expert's opinions.

FBI notice is coming up on FullTiltPoker.com for me, not yet Stars, but it appears to be a matter of time.

04-15-2011 , 02:02 PM

insidemanpoker

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,590

I just was told of a news report that FT and Stars have been seized by the FBI and that even some owners will be charged with money laundering.

Does anyone have any more details about this?

What will the impacts be on the sites? Will they remain operational?

Has there been ANY warning of this coming?

Link to original post with screenshot:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...luded-1020617/

and some news releases:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...852516194.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/onlin...s-fraud-2011-4

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/doj...dist=bigcharts

mods, please add UB to the title.

Mod Edit -

SDNY Press Release:

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...dictmentpr.pdf

Last edited by Karak; 04-15-2011 at 03:04 PM.

04-15-2011 , 02:02 PM

PotatoChips

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 144

smart people plz tell me what this means

04-15-2011 , 02:04 PM

novahunterpa

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From this thread in NVG http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29.../#post26051102

Seems like depending on where you live either some or all sites show that message, for me as of right now PS and FTP work but not UB. Anyone know whats going on?

04-15-2011 , 02:04 PM

SuperRu

adept

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,084

Both websites work fine for me...

04-15-2011 , 02:07 PM

insidemanpoker

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they seem to be working for me, but i have now had two people tell me they just saw this on fox news so it is definitely really happening. this is so insane. desperately awaiting responses from those with a clue in the leg forums. ppa?

04-15-2011 , 02:08 PM

novahunterpa

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,244

Here is a picture of what you see from the FBI when the site is blocked, this is what I see

Post From the NVG thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wires

ooops...

04-15-2011 , 02:11 PM

Halstad

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,565

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperRu

Both websites work fine for me...

They don't work for me.

04-15-2011 , 02:13 PM

fnord_too

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Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 29,116

The sites work fine for me.

04-15-2011 , 02:14 PM

#10

insidemanpoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Halstad

They don't work for me.

just the website or can you also not log into the software?

04-15-2011 , 02:16 PM

#11

Jonaspublius

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,182

Court fight inc.

04-15-2011 , 02:17 PM

#12

fnord_too

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They work for me, so either not all DNS's have been updated yet or something funny is going on.

04-15-2011 , 02:17 PM

#13

SuperRu

adept

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,084

Yep this seems legit. I wonder what's going to happen, one would think that ftp and stars were prepared for something like this. I wonder if Ivey, Lederer, et al are going to leave the country.

04-15-2011 , 02:17 PM

#14

VitaminChips

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 38

Stars working fine for me here in Vegas

04-15-2011 , 02:18 PM

#15

pianospike

adept

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,081

I can't even access pokerstars.com website. omfg, i think this really may be the end.

04-15-2011 , 02:18 PM

#16

kikadell

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thinking out loud here, could this have anything to do with the DC bill?

04-15-2011 , 02:18 PM

#17

frenchpignouf

adept

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If it is true, thank you to all the morons 'Status quo is fine for me' who failed to push the Reid bill.

Last edited by frenchpignouf; 04-15-2011 at 02:28 PM.

04-15-2011 , 02:20 PM

#18

Halstad

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Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,565

Quote:

Originally Posted by insidemanpoker

just the website or can you also not log into the software?

software works on AP and Stars (didn't try the others), websites don't

04-15-2011 , 02:21 PM

#19

novahunterpa

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fnord_too

The sites work fine for me.

From what I've read in the other thread for technical reasons (that I'm not really sure about) it takes some time for this to affect all ares depending ISP. So some places all sites are blocked others just one or two and some none yet but will likely be. Even those in foreign countries are being blocked from what I can tell

04-15-2011 , 02:22 PM

#20

VitaminChips

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 38

Both work fine for me, maybe its just a state issue like what happened in Washington

04-15-2011 , 02:24 PM

#21

novahunterpa

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...852516194.html

Quote:

Eleven people, including the founders of three of the largest online poker companies doing business in the U.S., have been charged in the latest crack down on Internet gambling by U.S. authorities.

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan allege the companies tried to sidestep U.S. laws prohibiting banks and credit-card issuers from processing gambling payments by disguising billions of dollars from U.S. gamblers as payments to nonexistent online merchants for golf balls, jewelry and other merchandise.

Mods: I just noticed there are several threads on this now, maybe its best to merge them