Why did you disappear for so long after you posted so much in this thread before?

Basically, you act super indignant about stuff, and then a ton of evidence comes out that condemns you. You disappear for a week and now come back when you realize that both you and your friend's situation are in dire shape, and you two need a last pull desperation attempt to get the escrowed money and/or prevent your money from being shipped to the bettors.

That's the only reason it'd take you so long to reply, most likely formulating a plan of action with your accomplices.

There is an unreal amount of evidence against your party at this point, so much in fact that new evidence is starting to push out the old evidence. Address them all please.

Afaik the "ton of evidence comes out that condemn" me are related to my multi accounting (correct me if I am wrong?), which I know is a losing battle because it's a gray area, and which I tried to explain in the last 2 pages.

I did not disappear exactly, but was hoping that stars would make a very quick response and say that I am not guilty, but that didn't happen. Meanwhile I was also concerned with the possibility of webpage with my personal details being put up and I tried to find out if that was legal, or if I can stop him from doing that, contacted admins, etc.

I really, at this point, couldn't care less about who loses the money, I really don't. The thing is, if OP loses the bet now, it's not the bet he loses, his account gets frozen, and his personal information will be released too, and because I tried to defend him and my friend (note again, I have only sent him $21.5 this entire year, and received nothing, and have NOT bought his action). If that happens, I may be implicated too, and some of the information Jalex has about me is possibly quite personal. I imagine he knows my facebook friends and possibly my family, that's what I am fighting for. I don't care about the bet.

In fact, it's because I don't actually care about the bet that I didn't feel I needed to post (I thought any post I made would make things worse). I was moved to post again because Jalex says if I don't explain myself I may be incriminated and my personal information revealed to the public.

I mean, you'd think if we were formulating a plan we'd stop sleeping and just work on that plan, not wait several days, right? I haven't even heard from Breeezzz lately (I'd talked to him after this prop bet for obvious reasons). I will have you know that everything I'd said in the past few posts, little or none of it is something new I'd added, just stuff I'd mentioned already but got covered over or ignored over all the "REPUTATION RUINED, YOU ARE AN MA-ER" things which are irrelevant to the bet.

I am not sure what sort of evidence you want me to deal with. I mean, how do I know why OP 3bets this or that, or played this hand this or that. All I can say now is that I know these people, I don't believe ANY of them knew each other. If they do, it's not that I know of.

About stuff like me using 2 accounts, the Nostalgica account on pokerstars, and me acting like a fool... well those are easy to explain, and I hope I have in the past few pages, and shown that it's irrelevant. I mean someone's even pointed out my friend 00doug and said that he happened to know OP too, but he's got nothing to do with this. I feel like I really made myself look suspicious because of all this coaching stuff, but none of it is actually related. Again I have said I will stop.

AFAIK, once I have given all the information I have with my transfer history, there's nothing more I can really do. I want to just plead innocence, ignorance, of everything of this matter and stay away from possible defamation. Shame me for being a terrible poster or someone with narcissistic disorder if you like, but I am not trying to cheat people's money, I have nothing to gain here, I just wanted to help and now I don't want to have anything to do with it.

this is what happens when you cheat prop bets and multi-account every possible thing you can multi account I suppose

They still think they can pull this out by smoke-screening us ******s. (hubris, w/e)

Really now, I'd meant this all along, jeez. It doesn't take that long to compile everything I'd said and known already and make that post (I mean, most of it is dealing with the Nostalgica issue, which is unrelated to the bet.) I'm not discussing this with them, but how can I prove this? I mean OP doesn't know anything about my coaching to begin with, and again it's irrelevant. This stuff I'd said has been around since before. Like I said I don't care what happens to the bet now.

I am sorry for multi accounting facebook and 2+2 causing all this grief (I also multi account on starcraft), but I do not cheat prop bets; I lost the only challenge propbet I did for like $20.

It's been like an hour now, and it's quite late. As a result I may not be able to respond too soon.

Thank you for listening.

Wtf why would you ever multiaccount facebook?

It's actually now possible for Roseeker to be innocent in the prop bet and just purely be a moron. Interesting.

Okay, I will tell you why I multi accounted on facebook. My family has my contacts on one facebook. They are really really traditional and religious and stuff, and I don't want them to see that I play poker, swear, get drunk, and, well most of my friend are like atheist. If I get incriminated, those things will be the least of their worries, so I am keen on not letting it go. AFAIK only Jalex knows I have two facebooks and what they are, and I hope he will not start messaging my family. I would think that that'd be harassment, and I'm worried about that.

Is this shady too? Hiding from parents? Maybe, but this is a personal thing.

Good night, sirs.

+1

I'm glad he chimed back in but w/e. I don't know what any of them could say at this point but "OK, I tried to pull a fast one but you all (but mostly jalex) caught me! I'm so busted, sorry, ship to the bettors! I'll try to be good from now on but I will not be surprised at all when none of you trust me!"

I'd also be interested to know the correspondence between Roseeker and Gary from the time of Breezzz losing to now

Jalex>>>>>>>Roseeker=Stox

Is it just me, or is this the first post he has made in this entire thread that rings of truth?

One truthful confession about your real, innocent reasons for multi-accounting facebook does not diminish the significance of your prior lies and cheating.

RoSeeker, can you post 100NL results with EV adjusted line?

losing 65 buyins at NL100 is absolutely mind boggling to me i just wanna see how thats possible

dude...no one is gonna harass your family over a few thousand dollars

not from the looks of this thread lol

While I do not know RoSeeker personally, I do know him back in the days in the Beginner section and he's generally a helpful good guy

There's been a ton of posts in the thread that I need to catch up on, but this is 100% a legit reason to have two facebook accounts, and I actually almost did this same thing, but i'm too damn lazy to manage two.

Too many ******s in this thread, keep this **** outta here... it doesn't belong.

+1

your mate has 12.5k on the line and you dont care?

Will you make money if he loses?

I'm joking of course, but it would be pretty sick if someone did sabotage a bet like this by "chip dumping."

yeh I think screwing with peoples private lives/ posting personal information because of this would be scummier than anything these guys have been accused of doing in this thread.

I'm sure he cares at some level, but is simply much more concerned for his own personal reputation and safety. I mean it's not like they're the best of friends or anything (from what I gather), and are just friends over the internet.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...-me-3k-522842/

once theres overwhelming proof of guilt (as determined by the judges) I wouldn't object to a good old public shaming

lolz

Roseeker, this is your first post itt after several posts from your other account. Here you act as if someone had to tell you about the bet when in fact you had been Gary's #1 advocate. Dude you came in here as a liar and a deceiver, your word is no longer good imo. Just cause Oreosandmilk got a pass doesn't mean you can come in and just make up stories as to why your innocent and multi-accounting is not that big of a deal. Maybe Jalex or blackize will feel differently since they are the only opinions that matter anyways. GL.

How the hell did this thread get 5 stars