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5of5 stars imo

6 wasn't an option

The only thing that can be trusted at this stage is the evidence.

Roseeker has zero credibility after having been found to have lied about nearly everything he could have since the start of this thread. Now that he's backed into a corner he will say whatever it takes, like any cornered rat, to lie his way out of this. Cheaters don't just come out and admit the truth when there is absolutely nothing in it for them. I mean what exactly do people expect him to say here....how can anyone believe anything that comes out of his mouth?

The only reason he is back on this thread is because, as someone else said, things have been looking even worse over the last 30 pages and him and gary know that as they now have nothing to lose and might as try one last ditch attempt to save their stars accounts/bankrolls/money tied up in the bet.

True to an extent, but if there was no blatant lying involved (rather than just "dishonesty by omission") such as "I'm a big small stakes winner" etc. and he was coaching lower stakes that he could beat, I don't think this is much of an issue.

lol

Genuine LOL

as an outsider, ive read the thread, and honestly have no f idea if anyone's guilty

Of course its an issue. He is working his angles to gain monetary gain that other ppls are not allowed.

Admittedly I started out playing online as a donk on ftp. I went busto not sure how many times. I moved to stars and still was a donk. And after getting good playing live and then posting hands here i became a successful player on Stars.

And this whole thing is actually funny cause I had just emailed FTP asking them if I could open a new account as an exception since I haven't played on their site in quite some time. Truth is I have a losing record but probably only lost about 300 life time. What I hate is the name I chose on my account and the fact that i never set up a rakeback. They replied NO. I still want to start playing on ftp again and I'm sure I will get my roi good after a good sample of games and will have to sacrifice the rakeback. I could have easily opened up a new account and xfred the money to my wifes account and have her cash out or figured out some angle but I didn't.

Roseeker is an angle shooter and will say and do anything to make his fast monies.

i haven' been following this thread, but roseeker's last few responses seem legit and i feel pretty bad for him if he indeed is innocent and has his rep ruined. i guess maybe the line about how he coached because he liked it alot and now can't.

having said that i'd probably expect alot of guilty people to come up with similar responses so i'm probably just naive.

And its understandable for you to think of him as legit if you have just read his last few responses. GG Roseeker. I almost forgot about all of your previous lies while eating up your recent responses.

I wanted to wade in here and call you an idiot. While it doesn't add to the thread, it may help you later in life. Gl, you are on ignore. If you don't why, read the hundred posts you have made in this thread and ask yourself if anyone gives a fk.

cliffs any1?

Come on Pokerstars - getting impatient!
sick sweat for Gary lol

+1

What angles? I'd have to see the wording of the coaching offer, but if he's coaching micro SNGs I don't think not revealing you are a losing 100nl player is "angle shooting". If he had a losing micro sng record on that name it'd be different obviously. But I don't think most coaches share 100% of the hands they've played with everyone... many have different handles across various poker sites.

We know what you did in your room last night and we're discussing a punishment.

Well I wanted to help him, but I must admit that when it comes down to it, 12.5k of his money is less important than my own well being,

Okay, I'm guilty of trying to make things sound better, but I never genuinely thought I was lying or cheating anyone. I realize it's hard to believe me now, but I am innocent and haven't actually done anything wrong aside from trying to hide a few facts from the public, which is wrong, but not the same as lynch-deserving. Well that didn't work out, and I am embarrassed and yeah it's wrong, I'm sorry, but I've been abused over it already.

Being related to suspicious people and acting suspiciously is worth investigating but is not in itself criminal. Well you're right, don't believe what I say, use evidence, but please give me a benefit of doubt and don't assume I am guilty.

I never made more money from coaching than playing (I am a massive winner at micros and mixed games), it wasn't "fast money" that I did it for, but because I enjoyed doing this.

Look, any lies I made was minor stuff like "hi I just checked this out, lol OP's innocent!" stuff, and chiming in with factoids that I thought would help OP's case, things that I used to try help my friend and make the situation look better.

All I knew was that things look really bad for my friend and he is getting accused of chip dumping and he stands to not win a lot of money he would otherwise, so I wanted the public to help him. Well lol, I suck at that, apparently, and it failed hardcore. As people have noted I must be a terrible friend, but whatever, I was trying to help. I wasn't trying to obstruct justice or anything.

I mean none of those things I said destroyed evidence. I just tried to persuade people to sympathize with OP and sucked at it.

Anyway, I'm in the middle of a huge controversy now without actually having anything to do with it, I just happen to know the people involved, and got stuck in it because I say stupid things. Now I just want out.

I also put this person on ignore. Even blackgerbil1 is not on ignore yet (which I dont know why). For one, the avatar is making me feel suicidal. Secondly, the numerous idiotic posts almost made me swallow all of the pills.

ROFL

so not only do you have connections with both breeez and stoppedclock, you also have transfer history with both of them. these are supposed to be just coincidences that have "legit reasons"? its just a coincidence that breeez and stoppedclock both lost 200+ at limits they barely play to gary AND that you have connections/transfer history with both?

it seems like youre trying to explain away any suspicious transfer history before jalex/stars might find them.

how are we supposed to believe you have "legit reasons" for these transfers when you have lied about COUNTLESS other things in this thread? you have zero credibility

this thread is really a mind****

i honestly do think he could be innocent at this point lol

I've already admitted transfer history, way before the recent posts, and yeah, I realize it's suspicious. I've been asked to do transfers for legit seeming reasons, so I did them. That's the extent of my involvement with the money. My transfer with Breeezzz were a decent while ago and quite small) he actually sent money back, so he couldn't have chip dumped with the money I transferred for him, unless I sent him more money elsewhere, which I have not, but cannot prove (aside from $40~ on FTP which I have shown to Jalex).

I helped StoppedClock send money because I was given a rounded-up edge in exchange rates (given cash in pounds). It's fishy, yeah, that StoppedClock ended up playing 200NL with the money, but 1/2 is like the smallest limit in a lot of live casinos, right? So it sort of makes sense that one would want to play there. I mean, I'm not going to turn down an opportunity to cash out while getting a tiny vig.

The money I sent OP was for Sunday Million during the F40s, and that's clearly profitable for any half-decent player for just $21.5, that's very different from a huge bet where you play 30k hands a day. I have not been given or promised money or anything like that, and have not bought action.

In the end, money exchanges can be made outside of pokersites, through promises, etc, which I can't disprove, but I will maintain that I personally have not discussed any of that. I did not even discuss the bet much at all until after the thread got heated. Suspicion over such a coincidence will always remain, but I have not tried to cheat in this bet, have nothing to gain, and really don't care if he loses the money at this point.

Roseeker is the best at charming people into feeling sorry for him that I have ever seen online.

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