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03-26-2010 , 05:16 AM

#2026

zachvac

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Also not to get too far off topic but ponDragon where you at in moco? Germantown here.

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03-26-2010 , 05:30 AM

#2027

PokerStorm

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Originally Posted by RiverFenix

This is better suited for werewolf detective work as it's lengthy and doesn't prove anything, butttt something else to think about. Your second post doesn't exactly sync up with what happened. If you pull up the PTR session where breez lost you can see it was spread out over 3 tables and 14 minutes.
http://www.**********************/st...sions/breeezzz

1) First hand played is at table Laomedon V at 11:13, 2 more hands are played
2) Same table 4 hands later is the hand where Gary has 86o on AJ6K, hand starts at 11:13
3) On a new table Ginevra II at 11:14 is the QQvT7o hand, only hand played by breez at this table
4) At 11:18 breez joins table Mitaka IV, Gary is not at this table.
5) At 11:19 breez raise/4bet/folds on Mitaka, it's his third hand at the table
6) At 11:20 back on Laomedon breez loses $121 (60.5bb) w/ A5s when he calls down vs a short stacker
7) Breez wraps up session on Laomedon at 11:23
8) Breez wraps up session on Mitaka at 11:25 after winning some money back
9) Breez starts HU session at 11:30, plays 22 hands, and leaves at 11:38

So this is really only important because the only hand where he was reraising/folding was on a table that Gary was not on. Look through the session history at all other 3 tables, you will not be able to find a hand to describe like this. So basically for Roseeker to have noticed that pf 4b/f hand the timing would be quite tight (ie unlikely). He would have had to notice Breez coincidentally join two of Garys tables between 11:13 and 11:18. He would then have to basically be researching for breez every minute or so to find out that he joined a third table. Once more after he's done watching Breez blow off all this money by 11:25, he continues to search his tables out and catches the HU game which starts 5 minutes later.

We already know Roseeker is a scumbag liar, but he's almost certainly trying to cover up the chip dump in the thread at the time (imo).

This really drives the nail into the coffin. Nice work. Roseeker/nostalgica has some big mouth on him. I have never seen someone self own themselves so hard.

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03-26-2010 , 05:32 AM

#2028

starrazz

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Originally Posted by Jah Onion

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...-glass-704661/

in case anybody missed it

Be sure to read the first 18 posts to see the usual suspects chiming in. It's as if Gary and Ro and Nostal and Oreos and Breez are all the same person. I just can't imagine anyone going to the wall to defend someone else's obviously idiotic behavior like Nostal did, unless Nostal and Gary are one and the same.

Even if not one and the same person, certainly at least Nostal/Ro and Gary's intere$t$ were aligned for thi$ prop bet.

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03-26-2010 , 05:52 AM

#2029

Trolldeg

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Originally Posted by starrazz

I don't see another volume/profit prop bet ever taking place on here again.

Fyp.

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03-26-2010 , 05:55 AM

#2030

blackize

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Originally Posted by zachvac

Also not to get too far off topic but ponDragon where you at in moco? Germantown here.

Small world. I'm in Laurel and originally from Bethesda

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03-26-2010 , 05:57 AM

#2031

Bacon

Makes everything better

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,001

lol no way that Roseeker is Gary. That's just absurd.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=825

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03-26-2010 , 05:59 AM

#2032

Matt Wolfe

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need a new drama bomb

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03-26-2010 , 06:13 AM

#2033

Paul McSwizzle

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Originally Posted by zachvac

lol so basically roseeker/nostalgica was following Breeze (since he knew about a hand not at one of Gary's tables). I wonder why...

Also gotta say deleting all that stuff if he's innocent would be perfectly standard as would if he's guilty. The important thing is people think he's guilty now and having all that info up can only hurt him not help him.

I may be missing something, but couldn't RoSeeker have found this on PTR (ie the way that the guy that posted it did...)?

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03-26-2010 , 06:15 AM

#2034

thac

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Originally Posted by Bacon

lol no way that Roseeker is Gary. That's just absurd.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=825

You were the kid in school that read out loud reaaaaaaaally slow, weren't you?

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03-26-2010 , 06:22 AM

#2035

blackize

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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle

I may be missing something, but couldn't RoSeeker have found this on PTR (ie the way that the guy that posted it did...)?

Pretty sure PTR almost never will have hands played during the previous ~hour on it.

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03-26-2010 , 06:24 AM

#2036

Paul McSwizzle

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Originally Posted by blackize

Pretty sure PTR almost never will have hands played during the previous ~hour on it.

Ahh. Didn't realize he had posted about the hand only an hour after it took place.

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03-26-2010 , 06:26 AM

#2037

sjp507

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Originally Posted by thac

You were the kid in school that read out loud reaaaaaaaally slow, weren't you?

O'DOYLE RULES

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03-26-2010 , 06:52 AM

#2038

OreosAndMilk

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Originally Posted by starrazz

Be sure to read the first 18 posts to see the usual suspects chiming in. It's as if Gary and Ro and Nostal and Oreos and Breez are all the same person. I just can't imagine anyone going to the wall to defend someone else's obviously idiotic behavior like Nostal did, unless Nostal and Gary are one and the same.

Even if not one and the same person, certainly at least Nostal/Ro and Gary's intere$t$ were aligned for thi$ prop bet.

I am certainly not the same person, I did not even know this prop bet was happening until it had finished. I have also outlined that I wanted nothing to do with this bet/these people in my previous posts after the evidence has been posted as it seems the judges know a lot more than I do about what has happened.
I really do not like my name mentioned under the same umbrella as these people as I think only something bad can come of it and IP checks by stars/hand histories will show that I am not involved at all whether they be innocent or guilty, I just happen to know roseeker and breeez which is apparently not all of the people involved. I have already said I do not know the other people who are involved. If you read my posts I didn't go to the wall as you said to defend gary, I thought he was innocent at the start and I still don't like the way it has been handled although I do agree jalex has done a very good job of uncovering what might be damning evidence.
However let me say again I am not involved with this and grouping my name with these people is somewhat slanderous, whether they are found innocent or if they are found out to be guilty. Remember all I have done is delete them from weaktight as I do not want to be asscosiated with them. I have come back to this thread to clear my name quite obviously and will continue to do so if people keep grouping me in this.

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03-26-2010 , 06:54 AM

#2039

sjp507

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Originally Posted by OreosAndMilk

I really do not like my name mentioned under the same umbrella as these people as I think only something bad can come of it and IP checks by stars/hand histories will show that I am not involved at all whether they be innocent or guilty, I just happen to know roseeker and breeez which is apparently not all of the people involved.

Hai, could you get hold of Roseeker/Nostalgica and ask him to respond please, this thread needs a new lease of life.

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03-26-2010 , 08:42 AM

#2040

Gary_Neville

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In light of what's happening in here and how the majority of all of the 2p2 masses (including impartial judges) approach/think about this affair, I will not post anything here anymore regarding my perspective of this matter, and that I won't let the internet terrorism of jalex affect my right to remain silent. I will from here on directly contact Pokerstars Support and I find no need in having any contact with any third parties in this matter until a final decision is made by Stars.

Innocent until proven guilty.

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03-26-2010 , 08:44 AM

#2041

Riggermortis

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Originally Posted by Gary_Neville

Innocent until proven guilty.

This is bbv, other way around.

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03-26-2010 , 08:47 AM

#2042

Chaos_ult

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I like how he says "Innocent until proven guilty" and not "I am innocent"

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03-26-2010 , 08:53 AM

#2043

afkBRB

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internet terrorism ITT!

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03-26-2010 , 09:00 AM

#2044

sjp507

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Originally Posted by Gary_Neville

I will from here on directly contact Pokerstars Support and I find no need in having any contact with any third parties in this matter until a final decision is made by Stars.

Innocent until proven guilty.

you realise stars isnt making the decision?

edit: ...in regard to the outcome of the bet.

stars verdict will almost certainly be inconclusive, unless of course you or roseeker did in fact xfer monies to breeze which would be LOL

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03-26-2010 , 09:04 AM

#2045

robhimself

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Originally Posted by Gary_Neville

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03-26-2010 , 09:14 AM

#2046

Brian O'Nolan

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Originally Posted by PokerStorm

This really drives the nail into the coffin. Nice work. Roseeker/nostalgica has some purty mouth on him. I have never seen someone self own themselves so hard.

This will be invaluable when he inevitably ends up in federal pound me in the ass prison.

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03-26-2010 , 09:20 AM

#2047

sjp507

banned

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Originally Posted by Gary_Neville

I will not post anything here anymore regarding my perspective of this matter, I find no need in having any contact with any third parties in this matter.

CYA GARY!

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03-26-2010 , 09:24 AM

#2048

Tazbolton

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 632

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Originally Posted by Gary_Neville

Ha ha ha - what so stars are the judges on this bet now are they??

man I haven't got anything to do with this - but this guy is a joke now. I thought u were innocent myself early on really did - but all the stuff jalex has found out is pretty much proving you guilty - now you know you didnt do any transfers so instead of pushing the judges for the decision you are saying - ok I didnt do any transfers so let stars be the judge,

you are a dirty cheater & I hope to god you dont get the money & I hope you get banned as people like you are bad for communities like this.