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04-16-2011 , 03:13 PM

#3801

bph7

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 104

Quote:

Originally Posted by Never Emperor

So basically they are saying all the money you made on Any of these sites was made Illegally, and is now theirs. GG to all, hope you didnt KEEP ALL the money you made on your account and put some in the bank. biggest scam in history, but as they say... the house ALWAYS wins mwahahahahah suckers

No, they are not saying this at all. The DOJ has yet to make any type of judgment as to whether the actions of the players was illegal at all. Some players from around the world have taken off and received funds. Many others have made (and received) millions of dollars in profits throughout the years due to playing online poker so I think it would be hard to call them suckers.

04-16-2011 , 03:14 PM

#3802

ShoveStandUp

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by rafiki

The argument that stars and company HAD to break the law given the US restrictions is a total farse. Oh they HAD to? Why? Party Poker chose not to break the law. You always have a choice. Particularly given how much money they could stand to lose by being caught. You take the legal channels available to you, and you win it the right way.

But it's a crock of **** to say these sites had to commit fraud. That's like saying Capone had to smuggle booze, kill people, and not pay taxes. I mean hell, what other choice did he have? lol.

It's not "had to commit fraud", it's "either commit fraud and hope you don't get caught, or lose your US player base instantly 5 years ago". They chose the former.

04-16-2011 , 03:14 PM

#3803

Turb0Licious

aka Turb0

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 5,054

Was on all last night, didn't turn off the comp. Still on today and playing real money games (US-PA). LOL I should probably log off and just be in the same boat as everyone else. But the CAP games are soo soft and I'm up. Doubtful I'll see this money anytime soon, but it is what it is. I will Not Log Off!!! never surrender!

Last edited by Turb0Licious; 04-16-2011 at 03:14 PM. Reason: fix

04-16-2011 , 03:14 PM

#3804

McGrift

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by timfbmx

3 years from now the Feds will probably be the owners of the biggest US based poker site. There is to much $ to be made not too.

Twinspires, Caesars et al will take over.
Gov will def get their cut.

04-16-2011 , 03:14 PM

#3805

HensonLosesLots

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 536

It's 110% the sites' fault for this debacle. They tried to get more by covering up shady transactions and now they got caught. US Govt isn't doing anything, it's the DOJ. Just a bunch of lawyers trying to get a piece of the easy pie.

04-16-2011 , 03:15 PM

#3806

listen_folks

adept

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 740

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma122

I would hope since Anonymous loves to take on causes where the government screws people, they would look at this and go hmmmm.

Probably would be more effective than anything else we could do.

04-16-2011 , 03:15 PM

#3807

titansox

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 211

I'm glad that guy came on Quad Jacks to say he couldn't comment on anything they asked. Cool Story

04-16-2011 , 03:15 PM

#3808

HUnewbie

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 47

There is no light at the end of the tunnel. Time to brush off the old resume.

04-16-2011 , 03:16 PM

#3809

rafiki

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 41,396

Quote:

Originally Posted by poker edge

Wait is this confirmed?

No it's not even close to confirmed. That and the money is off in escrow somewhere anyway. It's not like the DOJ can just easily take it all. But it could take a loooooong time to see it back.

04-16-2011 , 03:16 PM

#3810

karamazonk

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,626

Quote:

Originally Posted by macthemost

MATT HAWRILENKO BEGGING GUS TO LET HIM TILT HIS ROLE AWAY IN STYLE RIGHT NOW ON FTP 2-7

???

04-16-2011 , 03:16 PM

#3811

Mrnoluv

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom_dwonk

lol.... that is not fair to say at all, these people got incredibly UNLUCKY.. if there was serious notice of this happening (and not some people speculating) do you not think this person would try removing these funds? There was no REAL warning of this other than UIGEA which was released a while ago and nothing major happened since..

If you remember 2006, you know anything can happen. I lost money on Jetset Poker, trust me I will never leave a lot of money in an account again. We all knew this might happen so to leave that much money out there, you can bitch all you want, it would be a bad move.

04-16-2011 , 03:17 PM

#3812

macthemost

banned

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 521

Matt Hawrilenko: cmon gus, send me out of online poker in style.
ONES DADDY (Observer): he prob never logged off
Matt Hawrilenko: i'm just here for one last session and to spend all my full tilt points

04-16-2011 , 03:18 PM

#3813

listen_folks

adept

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 740

Quote:

Originally Posted by titansox

I'm glad that guy came on Quad Jacks to say he couldn't comment on anything they asked. Cool Story

It's crazy that guys like that convince people to give him money.

04-16-2011 , 03:18 PM

#3814

tom_dwonk

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,590

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrnoluv

Well imagine if you are a high stakes pro you have to leave that amount of money on their.. youre making it sound like people are just going, mmm im gunna play 200 NL and deposit 200k online just to be cool.... it was online for a reason obv... Everyone should move down in stakes?

04-16-2011 , 03:19 PM

#3815

_Towelie_

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,771

Quote:

Originally Posted by Never Emperor

Yea, 'basically'. "Basically", the moon is made out of green cheese. But in reality... nah **** it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by poker edge

Wait is this confirmed?

04-16-2011 , 03:21 PM

#3816

ShoveStandUp

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrnoluv

This - I am surprised that so many smart winning regulars couldn't see that keeping tens or hundreds of thousands of $ on a poker site, given all the increasing headaches processing transactions in recent years, was a bad idea. Should have kept enough on there to play the level you were at comfortably (unless you're planning on moving up indefinitely), and gotten the rest off. Hindsight is 20/20 though, I suppose.

04-16-2011 , 03:21 PM

#3817

moki

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,051

Quote:

Originally Posted by zibou04

uouf At least i'm European, i'm safe here playing online poker cause there aren't ******s thinking poker is a addicted gambling game that can cause serious problems to people (like alcoholism, drugs, etc.)

Online poker is NOT legal in all countries in the EU. eg, Norway.

04-16-2011 , 03:21 PM

#3818

rafiki

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 41,396

Interesting thing is apparently stars makes about 500M profit a year. The numbers that the DOJ are talking about could really cripple stars. Interesting to see how these sites will be able to sustain themselves between the money seized, the fines, the loss of customer base, etc...

04-16-2011 , 03:22 PM

#3819

britesorb

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 215

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainRunGood

I'm in the US and can still play on FT. I've been logged in since before **** hit the fan.

I am still able to play as well. I have been logged in since before Midnight (Friday). I will keep playing until they do a server restart. The down side is I can't access the promotions website or the cashier page. I would need the new update in order to access the cashier. Doesn't matter to me though since I will be not be withdrawing at this point. Personally, I think the money is safer on site than in processor "black hole".

04-16-2011 , 03:22 PM

#3820

BanSooners

adept

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 791

Not reading another 10 pages at this time but seeing 3,000 people logged on and 15 moderators is humbling where the normal numbers weren't even close to this. Maybe if we all(me included) gave a **it before and did something we wouldn't have to go through this now.

04-16-2011 , 03:22 PM

#3821

yido

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 151

Well I'm English and tried to cash out bout 12 hours ago, we'll see what happens, I've moved to a euro site and doubt I'll be going back, if this can happen now then whats to say it cant happen in the future i cba with the hassle

04-16-2011 , 03:23 PM

#3822

SonOfBadger

adept

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,121

mail from Pokerstars.FR support

Quote:

Hello Luke,

Thank you for your email, we appreciate your concern.

Please note that this interruption is strictly limited to US customers and that PokerStars' activities across the rest of the world will continue unimpeded.

PokerStars.IT/.FR (as applicable)is an independently licensed and operated cardroom, separate from our other international poker sites and is subject to Italian/French (as applicable)legislation and regulation and we pride ourselves in abiding by all relevant laws and regulations. PokerStars continues to offer all its regular services in Italy/France (as applicable) and the recent issues do not impact you in any way. Most importantly, please rest assured your funds are safe with PokerStars.IT/.FR and you can continue to play in a fully safe and secure environment.

We sincerely appreciate your understanding and concern, and thank you for choosing PokerStars.

Regards,

Alexis
PokerStars Support Team

04-16-2011 , 03:23 PM

#3823

disdig1

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 34

this quadjacks podcast is actually hilarious

04-16-2011 , 03:24 PM

#3824

TomG

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,339

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard2tel

Obama and his administration has nothing to do with it.

Ok well in a sense maybe..since he could of legalized and regulated online poker..but he just might have more important things on his plate.

Wrong on both counts.

The role of the executive is to enforce the law as written by the legislature and interpreted by the judicial system.

Any wonder why poker is now banned? Players have zero clue.