Before there can be a trial, there has to be a pre-trial. Before that the suspects, defendants or accused need to be captured or turn themselves in.

It seems like everyone isn't discussing their real money accounts as much as I would think. That is the main thing I am concerned with. I had 5 figures on Full Tilt and that is all the money I had, period. How much did everyone else have on their accounts?

So you think that cash goes in to an FDIC insured account with your name on it when you buy in to a tournament? Your protection is the financial integrity of the casino not some seperately segregated fund. If in fact you had a seperately segregated fund in a bank somewhere with the OL site the bank could generate a statement for you verifying that.

I just finished 8 years of honorable service in the Army a few months ago. During my stay there was the Special Force Pat Tillman death by friendly fire cover up, Abu Graib Iraq prisoner tortures, Guantanamo prisoner tortures, Aidetha Marines gang rape of 14 year old Iraqi girl and and murder of her and her family, recent Stryker Force from Fort Lewis (yes I was station there for a while as well) using up to 5 Afghans as target practice.


We were repeatedly briefed about rules of engagement and these are clearly no-nos. This did not prevent some soldiers from committing atrocities.


You clearly did not see what police did to Rodney King or some other police brutalities caught on tape. Are you naive enough to trust that all people in power do not overstep their boundaries?

It is highly likely that there will be no trial. The DoJ doesn't make accusations, it piles evidence miles high, and hits people too late for them to have a shot. I see a settlement.

I suggest you read the indictment, as what you are saying is highly ignorant of the facts.

If the case is successful, there will be no Full Tilt or PS. They will be GONE, seized by the U.S. government.

Damn, don't some of you guys realize this yet?

i dont want to live real life

3,500 on ft... 45,000 quicktender have no idea whats going to happen to the qt money... processing withdraw now.

4 figures. Meh, some day I'll get them back, I'm pretty sure. I'm more disappointed about the Step 6 ticket that most likely I'll never get to use.

Look how many Microgaming poker skins have gone down past couple of years. All people playing poker online shall realize that sooner or later practically EVERY poker company is bound to share this fate. When an online poker company grows and grows significantly, this is practically inevitable.

I have a gut feeling that this US action will echo in Europe and PokerStars may face a disaster of a larger scope. So, you better start watchin your money!

WTF is ****!?!?!? I thought this gambling crap was going to take forever...so they just attacked all sites out of the blue? I can't deposit money to my stars....is this going on for every site?

Cliffs pls on chances of US players getting their funds from their account and estimated time, if ever?

This is a criminal matter, not a civil matter. There may be a plea agreement but there is no settlement possible. There will be a trial without a plea agreement or charges being dropped. Could take years (think of Barry Bonds and BALCO)

Do you have a link for the actual indictment? All I've seen has been the press release issued ysterday.

Actually the majority of posters here are just plain old losing players that are happy the DOJ has taken away their ability to lose more.

It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it.

--Upton Sinclair

He's not saying that. What he IS saying is that in THIS PARTICULAR CASE he doesn't think anyone in a position of power is overstepping their boundaries (neither do I). Trying to draw parallels from this to using innocent people as target practice is ridiculous.

The LAW is where the issue lies. The ones enforcing the laws aren't overstepping any boundaries, the laws themselves are. There is a vast difference between the two.

Are you serious? Most of our laws are based one someone else's morality.

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@TexDolly Nice time to comment next time you have a heart attack might hit u up on twit seriously full table online players crush you stfu

I really would like to know what a good attorney says about the situation not random idiots like here posting that your money is gone(I`m Euro so I`m pretty certain my money is not gone, and I`m pretty sure if they start seizing money of Non US-Players they will have lots of work with all people sueing the USgov)

Here is a good blogentry about the case:

http://jhub3000.livejournal.com/90426.html

They cant consider poker gambling when time and time again it has been deemed a game of skill not luck in the courts. they cant have it both ways.. If you dont believe it just look at california.. where certain jurisdictions dont allow casinos but have card rooms... I think a good lawyer can get them out of those charges... Money laundering is where I think they got em.

http://www.talkleft.com/legal/pokerindictment.pdf

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Don't know why no one has simply suggested to challenge the DoJ HU4RLLZ?!? Problem solved.

Its the new world order we are watching from our computers.

I hope that one day everyone who are responsible for this will be executed