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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent
It makes me sick to see you guys defending these poker sites to the death like they are run by your next door neighbor. This is the problem with people today, people judge books by their covers. You see a couple "successful" people running around posting positive EV graphs and see people like Tom Dwan on ESPN and that is automatic justification that online poker cannot be rigged. You're being lured into something and you don't even realize it.
This actually gives a bit more insight into the mind of a riggedologist.
A lot of the anger derives from being mad at people who will not blindly believe what they believe about the sites being rigged (whether in reality due to them being a bad player/having a bit of bad luck whatever) so that anger builds and they fight back.
The whole comparison to Dwan is silly. There are tons of solid winning players and more bad losing players, Dwan does not matter. That is the nature of the poker economy. Same thing for live poker though on average the skill is much lower. Search the sharkscope graph thread to see tons of winners and losers.
You are right in one thing, lots of people judge books by their covers, which is why you see so many rigged theories based on nothing but a few bad beats, selective memory , and a ton of rationalization.
I mean can you show even a shred of proof of anything in any of your posts? I mean even a tiny sliver of actual proof? No, your only "proof" is your beliefs and your disdain for others who will not blindly agree. Falls short in the proof category based on real world definitions.
In other areas of real life would you take similar accusations of massive conspiracies on face value from random people with paranoid tendencies?
That is the issue many face when confronted with die hard riggedologists.
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Originally Posted by Rounding4Rent
Yes. From my personal experience and the comparison to countless others. Believe me when I tell you that i've spoken to hundreds of people who have experienced the same things. I've lost probably close to ten thousand of my own dollars on online poker (im a consistent winner live and am close to playing for a living). I've been on every single US site you could think of. The "patterns" we speak of are recognizable on every site. The "short-stack miracle", the set up hands in precise timing in accordance with account history/previous actions, the "initial deposit boost", etc. This is no coincidence. Although you come on the 2+2 forums and read about all these "successful online pro's" you don't read about the one's who lose it all or the LIVE pro players who simply will not play on online poker because they know the truth.
Let me also tell you that I used to be a winning online player.
the fishy business that has occurred in online poker in the last few years is REDICULOUS.
(Beyond the rigging - Do you guys actually know how many people use bots online? I know atleast 5 people personally who use numerous bots at many different sites to play tournaments/cash tables.)
Basically this proves you are not nearly as good a player as you think you are. Reality can be mean at times.
And by the way, your "short stack miracle" beliefs go against most people's "big stacks win too much" rigged beliefs. Try to avoid that in future when creating your beliefs.
All the best.
Last edited by Monteroy; 06-18-2009 at 05:27 PM.