But do you actually believe those thoughts? Intrusive thoughts don't really count IMO.

That link makes sense. Of course, it assumes you actually did something racist.

Now, this is something that I'll admit I might have (or maybe have had) a problem with. However, going too far either way is a problem. Both are important. Wouldn't you agree?

As far as I'm concerned, Fly's behavior perpetuates institutional racial oppression far more than those he rails against. The key to solving the problem is people having open and honest dialogues with each other about the problems. When someone is shouting people down and calling them names, that makes such dialogues impossible and actually makes it worse by putting people on the defensive, which ensures that they won't give what you say even a moment's consideration.

This is why it's my opinion that he doesn't really care about the issue at all and simply wants to use it to hurt people for fun. If he really cared about the issue, his approach is the very worst thing he could do to try to improve it.

Hang on. Are you saying that fly is actually another 2+2 poster and this is well known?

seriously?

I wanna know whose gimmick fly is

The real problem there is shame trolly jumping off a large cliff of assumption. He never asked me my take on systemic racism or how I understand and balance between treating the individual problem of racism with the social problem.

He only knows I think shaming is a tool of the oppressor and not something I do. He has engaged in one scoffing mischaracterization of my position after another out of sheer zealous ignorance.

My whole experience posting here in the politics forums and being a mod has been one darnedest thing after another.

Nobody cares about your take on anything, spank

You do behave like a nobody often enough to speak for the part.

Alex on a mf crusade. I would also like to know fly's gimmick if he has one.

You would absolutely get called a racist in this forum for things you have said if you weren't a red.

In fact, the claim has been made repeatedly that ALL Ron Paul supporters are racist, so you actually have been called a racist.

It's a tough call. He could be making a self-deprecating reference to earlier behavior or he could be completely serious. Welcome to the world of AlexM.

could be that I'm learning about Alex's world.

then again I notice you didn't say you thought Fly wasn't a gimmick.

It's gimmicks all the way down.

The answer lies in the voting of the Bad Posters polls.

Zikzak's first thread involved and ethical question about doing something shady at the poker table, so he probably knows a thing or two about gimmicks.

Damn. Fly posts straight up bigotry against sick people and hardly gets any "SJW" votes in round 2.

lol you really like rewriting history, don't you?

For those that don't remember/know, Alex had a spell awhile back where he thought like 10 well known political posters were all the same person using a variety of gimmicks. That he thinks he found some tell/pattern in voting that would out Fly should just confirm that it's a dumb crackpot theory.

Was that not what did it? Seems like a bit of a coincidence that Fly's attack dogs went after him after that, but I guess maybe that's not what happened.

I have no interest in rewriting history, but I also don't take the written history at face value. Anyone who isn't willing to explore options on that front is a sheep.

Covering for Fly still, just like a partisan tool. I was mistaken about you in the good poster thread.

Rjoe tells people to shut up and mocks people with language difficulty. Here he is mocking Alex for apparently having a temporary mental breakdown, or atleast the appearance of one. World class jerk behavior.

Nah, I just meant that someone could figure it out from that. It's just a drop in the bucket though. I'm intentionally being cryptic because spoilers aren't much fun.

I'm inclined to believe something like that

but there does seems a reluctance from you and zikzak to simply say you don't think Fly is a gimmick.

Alex you might have a point if most people weren't on Fly's side there. That they all then also came up with some other reason to attack Spank's modding ability, seemingly spontaneously, is some great conspiracy work there. Maybe, just maybe, they're unrelated?