One of King's greatest achievements was teaching people not to be terrified of the racist establishment and their terror tactics. He did that by teaching a basic principle that fear is conquered by the unity of heart and mind; the individual conscious practice of unconditional love.

A lot of people reject psychological theories about racism because they think the sociological theories are more useful.

I am fairly sure that a unified theory is possible and would be very useful.

I apologize. I did not intend to insult you. It's just that your characterization of Jay Z and Beyoncé is quite uninformed. There is little reason to do anything else but walk (run) away if you are not interested in becoming better informed by listening people who have an inside perspective on Hip Hop.

I can't get all the way to unconditional love but MLK is one of the true greats imo, maybe even the best of them all.

The psychological theories require a personal sustained effort that is far more challenging than simple outwards expressions of condemnation. A balanced approach is rooted in an integration of knowledge rather than schools of thought competing for supremacy.

Clearly the claim they would all go out of business in a couple of days is wrong but that's missing the idea.

There would be lots of problems with the approach but that's not a reason not to do it because there are lots of problems with our current approach. Most likely the problems in both have exactly the same cause so valid questions are which set of problems best allow us to attack the cause? and which problems are worse? The answer depends on what else we do among other things but its not clear that one approach is dominant.

disclaimer. I'm not advocating doing it in the current system and I'm not remotely libertarian.

No. That has nothing to do with the psychological theories at all. Like all decent psychological theories, it is cold and descriptive, not warm and fuzzy.

Could you elaborate? I am unaware of psychological theories (in practice) that reject the full range and validity of human emotional experience, some of which are quite warm and fuzzy.

David Roth ‏@david_j_roth 19m19 minutes ago
My problem with the PC Police is that, instead of being in the streets preventing crime, they chide lazy-minded bigots for being awful.

Just your favorite then, or if you happen to think of one best suited for a capitalist, boot-strap Murican who doesn't currently think he's as racist as you do.

Well, we already know what happens if we allow it, so we can reject it.

Really, from a class perspective, the answer is that if you don't want to be around poor people because of their poor people antics, you ought to get rich enough to go places where they can't afford to go. If you don't, then clearly you are one of them and by golly we aren't letting you in just because you happen to have the same color skin. Even the Duquesne Club (worth googling initiation and annual fees) has black people. /satire

My personal somewhat educated take is that irl, things have vastly improved. I am tempted to think things will continue to improve. The youngest generation is the least racist generation.

The nice thing is that as we continue to learn about cognitive and behavioral biases, it is becoming more and more difficult to be racist without also feeling kind of stupid and embarrassingly so.

Is this like, a commonly accepted code in America? I think I remember reading about an outcry a while ago because someone on TV called a black footballer a thug. Pretty amazing how many of these phrases I'm not aware of, it happened with race baiter and something else recently. I'm 99% sure that thug has no racial connotations where I'm from.

No we can't, it's simply a mistake to say that even if the conclusion were correct.

I agree things are getting better and will generally continue to do so but it would be an outrage to think that's sufficient in itself.

Yes. It's a somewhat recent development, but it now most commonly refers to young black men

And I'd volunteer to punch you. Repeatedly.

Same here.

Thanks I appreciate that. I am willing to listen to your side of the argument, although I dont think you will be able to change my mind about Gansta rap and how much of a evil destructive force it has become.

I am not trying to be close minded, but I have thought alot about it over the years and seeing some inner citys like war zones and a culture that glorifies it make me sick.

Seems like I'd be doing better in that deal than I might expect on average

I think glorifying it might be a misunderstanding. Do you think the low pants is glorifying prison culture, or that their use of the N word is glorifying slavery?

Behaviorism utterly rejected such things. That answers your question, but is irrelevant.

The psychological theories about the maintenance of racism involve cognitive and behavioral biases. Stuff like the just world hypothesis, illusory correlations, sharpening lines, etc.

A flute with no holes is not a flute, and a donut with no hole is a Danish.

More importantly, my woman put the merlo in the fridge.

Not glorifying it at all. It is raising the middle finger at authority. I think that is typical behavior for the young as a right of passage.

Obviously different when black young folk do it, causa it is exactly the same.

More importantly, who puts merlo in the ****ing fridge?!?

No and no.

Why hasn't gangster rap destroyed white suburbia, iyo?

Then could lyrics embracing inner city violence be taken in similar vein?

But you do think that black culture is problematic, right?