I don't think Fly is a gimmick. Good enough?

I'm not really mocking him for it. I'm explaining to others that are new here, which there are a decent amount of ITT, that it's not new Alex behavior and he hasn't really figured anything out from some unspecified voting pattern. It's just Alex being Alex.

I find it plausible there was some behind the scenes concern I might ban the mighty FlyWf if he kept up his bigoted antics.

Of course you're going to want to find it plausible. It's easier than accepting you just weren't up to it and people didn't like you as a moderator and/or poster. A lot easier to blame some hidden cabal conspiring against you than your own actions.

Yeah, I say you're a bigot just like Fly. Denigrating Alex's mental capability using an implication that it seemed like he had problems that one time so you can't trust what he says now.

Yes. Thank you.

Your a political smear artist, a bully, and a bigot. Your motives are revealed because back when Fly attacked a person with autism, my moderation wasn't on anyone's radar except Dids. He held a grudge because I called him out on his prejudiced and fearmongering of the south. You over- played your hand and never should have posted knee-jerk partisan defense tonight.

Spank, I know we'll never be able to have a real conversation but maybe don't go with the notion of 'someone that I think was mean to me said something wasn't true so it must actually be true' so much. It's not a great way to think about things. I'm very confident you'll take this advice.

I'm not saying I think it's aliens, but Fly's a gimmick, and it's MrWookie.

Also, Alex has admitted his mental problems here before. I'm not making implications.

Here's the post if you'd like to read it. I find this bit interesting and relevant to the current discussion:

He just keeps thinking of things until he thinks he's found some link and then goes to find some more stuff that appears to back it up. In his head. That's exactly what happened last time he thought everyone was one person posting. It's not anything new. I don't see where he's posted his theory or who Fly is, have you?

I mean, maybe I'm wrong and Fly is a gimmick but that seems pretty far fetched.

Fly's sense of humor is way too unique for him to be a gimmick account.

What reasons would people have to think it is a gimmick account anyway?

Alex saw something fishy in the bad poster voting.

Okay, I take back the strength of my recent assertions towards you. My apologies. Being close to situations of mental health stigma outside the internet has my awareness heightened.

Also, It just seems like a cheap shot towards Alex, who has born years of cheap shots from posters and mods alike.

Alex does seem to have a point about bad poster voting giving Fly a big old pass for some of the worst type of posting. For all I know he is making a self-referential joke about gimmicks.

Fly using a gimmick would shock me. He takes himself way too seriously for that nonsense.

That was my thinking. Add in that his tone / expressions / writing style are unique AND consistent itf and it is pretty hard to justify the idea that he is a gimmick.

At some point you would expect him to break character (either on purpose or on accident) and act like a normal human being. WYSIWYG.

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. The relationship is stronger in someone who has strong traits, given that their behavior is more closely aligned with who they are than with the situation at hand.

Given that the standard of proof that Alex is using to judge people is that he can come up with a plausible explanation, it isn't fair to expect others to use a different standard with him.

One of the truisms in life is that if everyone treats you the same (and differently than they treat others) it likely due to who you are, not who they are.

That's a generalization, not a truism. If 'everyone' treats a person the same, 'everyone' is not acting as individuals and cannot be considered acting with genuine human sincerity. It stands to reason some, perhaps many, are just following along to fit in and to avoid the social pressure that is often directed towards non-conformity or non-compliance to group expectations.

Lol at this bull****. I love the way when people are on the "you're a racist!" end of the spectrum they can post a link to support their argument but when it's on the other side it's "lol you are a ****ing idiot" bull****. Same exact argument in reverse with the word thug and it's "no, you're just a racist".

You people are ****ing ridiculous with these arguments. So much of rap is about coming off as "hard" or "thuggish", yet when people have a reaction of being wary/scared of it they are racist ****s. The very people in that subculture do their best to portray themselves as street criminals and when they get a reaction to that exact self-portrayal they cry racism. They really are butthurt about people crossing the street?

Every single thread on these ****ing forums comes down to the same bull****. The Fly/Wookie racism police come out in force, and then you get Trolly and the rest of the hagers-ons to pile on because they have this deep-seeded need to be socially accepted on an internet forum.

All we have to do is sit back and wait for the word "sociopath" to come out, because it comes out in every mother****ing thread.

The **** gets ****ing old. Christ. Change it the **** up.

And the anti-spankthewookie sentiment while he piles one someone else being a bigot is comical.

Oh, he mad. What are you even talking about? You posted something insanely stupid, being that rap music is never about "Getting rich." I posted the comeback that the best selling rap album by a black artist of the last 20 years is literally called "Get rich or die tryin'." Then, you lost a screw or five?

Again, I've asked you or Johnny for examples of specific artists or songs on your crusade against hip hop culture and rap music. Hell, I can think of ones that fit myself, but I'm curious which ones you think of. Because the only artists either of you have directly stated are Beyonce and Jay Z, who are the opposite of "thugs." They were at a PSG game today in the directors box and people were making illuminati jokes. If you want to make an argument, you actually have to support it. That's why everyone is calling you out. You have asserted many things about rap music and hip hop culture without naming a single artist, song or album. This is not even a hard thing to do, there are examples that fit your case. The fact that you are too lazy and/or ignorant to do so speaks volumes. Note that I never called you a racist, I said you had no idea about hip hop culture or rap music, because this fact is very obvious.

You are missing the point. It is extremely rare for everyone to treat someone the same. This is because we are individuals.

When we all (or even the vast majority) independently come to the same conclusion about you (the general you, not you specifically), it is time to carefully consider the possibility that it is because of you.

This is especially true when you state an idea and it is rejected by others. Smart people seek evidence that they are wrong.

**** sapiens sapiens is a social animal. Being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian is the stuff of adolescent attempts at individualization.

Once again, complete bull**** argument.

#1 I have nothing against Johnny (or really, any of you), but don't lump me with anyone else. My position is my own. I don't side with anyone on these forums, I just express my own personal beliefs. Whether that happens to agree with someone on something doesn't mean jack ****. I could side with Fly and his bull**** in one thread, and completely disagree with him in another. I don't know why you think a person is in complete agreement with another on every topic.

#2 I've never said a word about Beyonce, and I never will. Who gives a **** about her? She's Christine Aguilara for all the **** I care.

#3 You really want me to post rap lyrics? Like, seriously? Ok, I will. This will be comical.

The number one song on billboard, at THIS EXACT MOMENT, is Nicki Minaj "Anaconda".

Lyrics?

Boy toy named Troy used to live in Detroit
Big dope dealer money, he was getting some coins

The number 2 song doesn't work.

The number 3 song lyrics, by Bobby Shmurda are

In Truey, I'm some hot *****
Like I talk to Shyste when I shot ******

Those are the FIRST TWO ****ING LINES.

I mean, I could continue with the lyrics of that song:

I been selling crack since like the 5th grade. Really never made no difference what the **** made


And

Grimey shooters dressed in G-Star. GS9, I go so Hard. But GS for my gun squad. And bitch if there's a problem we gon' gun brawl


I mean come dude, your argument is beyond ridiculous, it's ****ing comical.

Shut up Brian. As soon as he figures out that the world consists of him and "just that one other guy" he will leave.

thread subtly turning into "black people say the darnedest things!"

I'm just waiting for someone to call me a sociopath. It'll happen soon enough.

I should just move to Montana.