Do you know what ceteris paribus means? Because that qualifier was used, and it's important.

Asserting that all whites have privilege is not the same thing as asserting all whites have better life outcomes than blacks. This is why everyone is asking you to define your terms, because you have been far too stupid to understand what everyone else is writing.

Tell me about statistical facts....I would think if you are going to pass off something as fact, you'd want to be accurate....according to your logic its human nature to simplify and leave up to interpretation what someone means when discussing "statistical facts". His fact was wrong but "what I meant to say and you should of understood....." blah blah blah. Its the same thing, when your caught passing out bull****, you make up some absurd reason about "what you meant" and how I should of known it.

This, this right here is why you are horrible at moderatig politics.

Let's analyze heterosexual Christian privilege for comparison and knowledge.

My statement is accurate. You are distorting the meaning and then complaining that I didn't add extra qualifiers to prevent your distortions

Braves is certainly posting a lot for someone who quit the forum

BRAVES YOUR USE OF THE WORD "LAST" WAS NOT ACCURATE.

Hey, I am glad he came back, because I finally understand how stupid his point was.

But blacks are arrested at a higher rate than whites, which is statistically true and yet you took issue with that statement.

I took issue with that statement?


This is what I took issue with:

You are ****ing liar.

Yes, you took issue with that very statement:

You disingenuous ****. I'm not going to waste my time explaining the complete distortion you've perpetrated here. Here comes the merry band of misfits to pat you on the back not understanding the dishonesty to which you argue from. Problem, is it only validates your disingenuous nature. You cant possible be wrong so you have to interject a conversation about stereotypes into your defense of a statiscally invalid fact.

I disputed the statement as an example of a stereotype. I disputed the factual basis of the "statistical fact". Keep pretending your making a credible point.

Further more, I said above that the frequency with which blacks are stopped is greater than whites, explicitly making the statement about the rate of stops instead of total numbers. There is nothing wrong with that statement, and your pedantic point that I forgot to say "rate of" one time isn't even true there.

OK bye

Is this clownshoes serious?

Exactly what you want. The racist is on another witch hunt using a disingenuous narrative. Its not hard to understand why people attack your credibility.

Exactly.

Wookie doing some work to defend a statement I made because he thinks it was his is comic gold.

The real comic gold is when he defended your statement then in the middle tried to move the goal post to his statement made a few days ago which was discussed in an entirely different context. It blew up my sensors thinking someone would attempt such dishonesty.

So braves, why did you think it was a good idea to argue mr wookies flaws around the concept of white privilege? I can understand you having questions and a viewpoint about the concept, but you have not made it clear how mr wookie or fly have misused the concept to justify accusations of racism? Of course fly did not made it clear why you should be accused of racist. So are you just being excessively argumentative about racism with a bunch of people who are also being excessively argumentative about racism?

On a related note, what does anyone guess what a brainscan of fly or mr wookie when they are accused of being racist looks like? What would a brain-scan of BruceZ looked like when accused of being racist?

If we were in a well-equipped medical laboratory, we could come together and look at this.

It all started when I read MrWookies example of racial stereotypes as racist (Asians are bad drivers)while he himself perpetrates a racial stereotype. Then he says mods should not be racist. Of course, he and others are not racist because when addressing his stereotype they transmogrify the meaning of stereotype. I digress, I guess that is the privilege this forum assigns to the cool kids club and I should just learn to accept it.

Braves seems to be using some form of the argument that accusations of racial bias are themselves a form of bias that is as bad as racism.

That's Chez's Law.

I made several statements roughly equivalent to yours that braves also took issue with. Since it was so hard to get out of him just what issues he had, it seemed to me he was treating them all the same.

No. Its quite simple. "Whites are privileged" is irrefutably a racial stereotype, whether ones believes it or not. According to MrWookie, racial stereotypes are racist. He perpetrates a racial stereotype therefore, he is racist.

I'm not going to say that Wookie does not perpetuate stereotypes, but white privilege isn't a stereotype. All white privilege really means is that white people have benefitted more from racism than other groups.

Is this some sort of trolling super-challenge you're undertaking? Like trying to convince us that you really believe the Earth is flat or something? No one's going to buy it. Though if Jmakin were here, he'd pretend for you.