Its not like your friends will ever acknowledge your dishonesty, no need to try and defend it.

Well, he quoted it in a confusing way by posting a quote by you with the proper linking and such and then posting the quote by me without anything indicating who it was from, so I don't blame you for making that mistake. It's still comic gold though.

I suspect he did that intentionally to get you to defend my post. I'm dropping my dumb, terrible troll statement and guessing it's either MissileDog or ikes.

I don't think braves even knows what "irrefutable" means.

The problem is when you speak in absolutes. The other problem exist when the forum calls out people who do not believe they are privileged as racist or people who do not acknowledge privilege. You can pretend you mean generally but in reality, there are people here who subscribe to the fact that all white people have privilege and anyone who dissents is a racist.

Some white people have benefited from discrimination but not all people so when you say "whites are privileged" you are perpetuating a stereotype and a logical fallacy (guilt by association/honor by association). I do not care if its whites that are stereotyped, its that people are stereotyping people by race.

I don't think you know what stereotype means.

Thread is moving at breakneck speed to nowhere.

No one else agrees with your definition, not even Peter Porker, and he hates me.

Don't sell yourself short--you're actually both.

See. I'm not white.

It's possible they aren't a racist but they're certainly naive.

So, your argument is that white privilege doesn't exist because there are trolls?

Also, if anyone is being stereotyped by the concept of white privilege, it's humanity as a whole. Which groups of humans that you plug into the different slots in the concept isn't at all relevant. And yes, ALL white people do have privilege. That's what white privilege IS! Louis CK really explains white privilege best:

I didn't know these had sensors:

I don't hate you or anyone. I don't even have the grudge against you that you seem to think I do. That's just part of your continuing failed read on me. It's okay. I know you do a much better job of that with most people, which is why you're mostly a good mod.

But the formal meaning of white privilege equals white supremacist privilege. It would have to be used as an accusation in an instance where people with white skin were targeted with it as a stereotype to become misused as racist. Really, the only case where white privilege can apply as an accurate accusation is if it is targeting a explicit white supremacist. The formal use of the term, however, is not accusatory, but descriptive of a now mostly implicit phenomenon.

In contrast, Heterosexual Christian privilege is still rather explicit, though sexual prudish privilege in general seems to be going beyond implicit, lost on the internet and back in the privacy of homes where it can then be broadcast on the internet.

White privilege is not meant to describe a feature of all white people, it describes a feature of history and supremacy mentality. Racism is the way the supremacy is expressed and how the privilege was gained.

I can't even imagine how much time braves spent researching this forum, and his big debut "Talking about white privilege is racist" has bombed so terrible. Probably needed to go back a few more years.

No.

I've never said it does or does not exist. I've never said it does or not does exist because of trolls. I've said, its premise is flawed. There is no logical conclusion that can be derived. It's a stereotype based on logical fallacies. I am not, nor will I argue the truth value of its premises. The fact you think I'm arguing whether or not it exist tells me you lack the ability to comprehend my argument.

You and several other posters ignore the lack of logical validity and immediate go about trying to prove or disprove it's premises. The existence of white privilege, if it does exist, does not prove all white people have it or "whites are privileged" and you irrational assume it does. People can call me stupid, idiotic and every other name but this is basic logic that most responding completely ignore. Its a stereotype. You incessantly argue that I do not understand the truth value of its premises. The truth value does not matter.

You honestly think I post here to get social acceptance? How ****ing stupid are you? You are the one who thrives on social acceptance of irrationality. After all, you think your attempts at proving that white privilege exist proves all white people have it, then you perpetuate this as some common belief. Well, common beliefs are, most of the time, bull****.

As I pointed out before, your cognitive dissonance is spectacularly demonstrated on an almost daily basis.

Lol, yes, it does. It's not as if the majority of white people are given it at birth, but for some reason a handful aren't.

If you think are you granted some magical benefits by everyone simply because you were born white, you are a ****ing idiot.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

"facts". I'm not going down that road again. You guys "facts" somehow change over the course of the discussion. Again, if you think its a fact that you are granted some magical benefit(s) by everyone (with or with out their say so) simply because you were born white, you are a ****ing idiot.

That's true. They're scientific benefits.

I suggest you look up what anthropologist say about race.