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10-07-2013 , 02:15 AM
Why are the chairs so horrendous?
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10-07-2013 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Pork Fri Rize
Why are the chairs so horrendous?
I assume you are looking for a response more in-depth than "Because nicer chairs would be expensive."?
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10-07-2013 , 03:23 PM
They don't have to be majestic but every poker room I've been in of that size has some sort of adjustable chair, which is probably not much more per wholesale orders. Dunno how you daily grinders put up with those seats. The massage girls must be happy though.
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10-07-2013 , 04:05 PM
Hmm..better chairs equals comfy players equals longer sessions equals higher rake.

Sounds like a justifiable business expense to me
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10-07-2013 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by donkatruck
Ask me how I know you are impervious to cold or have never been in the THR poker room.
I've been playing there all week. The temperature is fine. Everyone in t-shirts. Sorry if the facts hurt, but that's the way it is. Maybe it used to be cold or something.

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Originally Posted by Pork Fri Rize
Why are the chairs so horrendous?
Because the players are so horrendous, it's a fair trade! You guys that live down here are very, very lucky to have such a nice fish pond ... it's like a poker player's dream! I've hardly ever seen games like this outside of Vegas. At every table I've been on, there have been at least two players who didn't fully know the rules, or are first-timers. Amazingly soft!!
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10-07-2013 , 07:33 PM
I will confirm that for the last few days, the room has been surprisingly comfortable as far as temperature goes. I haven't had to blow on my hands or go into the rest room and put them in the fancy Dyson hot air dryers in order to warm them up.

But my theory is that something has broken in the AC system, and they are feverishly working to get it fixed, and we will be back to normal frigid temperatures in no time!
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10-08-2013 , 09:15 AM
scott can you confirm or deny if floor supervisors are allowed to receive tokes/tips?
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10-08-2013 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PeopleMover
scott can you confirm or deny if floor supervisors are allowed to receive tokes/tips?


I tried to tip one a red bird the other day for replacing my player's card and getting me some back comp dollars as the Bravo dropped me at some point. He wouldn't take it.
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10-09-2013 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PeopleMover
scott can you confirm or deny if floor supervisors are allowed to receive tokes/tips?
It is not a tipped position.
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10-09-2013 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott Foxworth
It is not a tipped position.
OK, so that means that tips are not included in the calculation of their pay; but if a player offers a tip to one, are they allowed to accept it or not?
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10-09-2013 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
OK, so that means that tips are not included in the calculation of their pay; but if a player offers a tip to one, are they allowed to accept it or not?
No they are not. I am sure there postion is set up where there is no way for them to declare tips,hence there would be potential IRS violations if they did.
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10-09-2013 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Red6
No they are not. I am sure there postion is set up where there is no way for them to declare tips,hence there would be potential IRS violations if they did.
The bagboys at Publix aren't allowed to accept tips either, but that's never stopped me. How else am I gonna ensure they don't smoosh my eggs. Not sure why erryone so uptight. It's just gambling, not surgery
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10-09-2013 , 02:28 PM
Got confirmation that the 10k guarantee on sat mornings has been bumped up to 15k pretty sweeeet.
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10-10-2013 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Snapcall87
Got confirmation that the 10k guarantee on sat mornings has been bumped up to 15k pretty sweeeet.
Very Nice.
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10-10-2013 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 42-fletchers
The bagboys at Publix aren't allowed to accept tips either, but that's never stopped me. How else am I gonna ensure they don't smoosh my eggs. Not sure why erryone so uptight. It's just gambling, not surgery

My point is that Scott is a Manager and in that spot is only going to tell you No.
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10-10-2013 , 12:55 PM
Hello,

I was at the Hard Rock Tampa last night and this hand came up. I was rather confused with what the table thought the proper ruling was.

Hero is in the sb and 4 players limp around including the losing reg on the button in Seat 1.

The flop brings a 257 and Hero leads for $13. 2 other players call, the player in seat 10 is thinking and before he calls or folds the losing reg raises to $30. The dealer informs the losing reg that he bet out of turn. Seat 10 ends up calls the $13 and now the losing reg says "I will just call".

Now from what I understand the losing reg's raise still stands because the action did not change in front of him. As far as I'm concerned this ruling is in place to avoid collusion and angling. Hero requested to speak with a supervisor and the Supervisor states, "It could go either way but because the action did not change in front of him the raise stands".

Hero then 3bets. The losing reg starts screaming like a wild man and requesting a 2nd opinion, running from his chair to speak to the supervisor. (which was pretty funny because his hand was killed for being abandoned).

So 2+2, did the supervisor make the proper ruling here or is this on a room by room basis?
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10-10-2013 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by brojaysimpson
Hello,

I was at the Hard Rock Tampa last night and this hand came up. I was rather confused with what the table thought the proper ruling was.

Hero is in the sb and 4 players limp around including the losing reg on the button in Seat 1.

The flop brings a 257 and Hero leads for $13. 2 other players call, the player in seat 10 is thinking and before he calls or folds the losing reg raises to $30. The dealer informs the losing reg that he bet out of turn. Seat 10 ends up calls the $13 and now the losing reg says "I will just call".

Now from what I understand the losing reg's raise still stands because the action did not change in front of him. As far as I'm concerned this ruling is in place to avoid collusion and angling. Hero requested to speak with a supervisor and the Supervisor states, "It could go either way but because the action did not change in front of him the raise stands".

Hero then 3bets. The losing reg starts screaming like a wild man and requesting a 2nd opinion, running from his chair to speak to the supervisor. (which was pretty funny because his hand was killed for being abandoned).

So 2+2, did the supervisor make the proper ruling here or is this on a room by room basis?
That's a standard proper ruling. However, rooms can have their own rules that are different.

There are two standards for rules: the Tournament Director Association (TDA) rules, which apply specifically to tournaments; and Robert's Rules of Poker (RROP), for both cash games and tournaments. Rooms may or may not adopt these standards, and may or may not have house rules that vary from them.
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10-10-2013 , 01:12 PM
Not sure why everyone seemed to side with the regular, stating this has been ruled differently before. Not to mention the dealer gave me push back when I stated his raise stands.
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10-10-2013 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Snapcall87
Any1 have a structure sheet for the little slick?
http://www.seminolehardrocktampa.com...0Structure.pdf
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10-10-2013 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by brojaysimpson
Not sure why everyone seemed to side with the regular, stating this has been ruled differently before. Not to mention the dealer gave me push back when I stated his raise stands.
It probably has been ruled differently before. THR is notorious for making bad, wrong and inconsistent rulings.
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10-10-2013 , 01:21 PM
Does Scott have any plans to make thing more consistent in the room? The few people I've talked to seem to state there is 3 different managers that work 8 hour shifts and that the rules are pretty much different for every one of the 3 managers.
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10-10-2013 , 01:39 PM
In all of my experience in this room, the rule here is that out of turn action is not binding regardless of action changing in front or not. It's a dumb rule that I disagree with (and I have voiced my displeasure with the rule on many occasions), but according to the rules of the room afaik, the supervisor made the wrong ruling.
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10-10-2013 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheatsauce
In all of my experience in this room, the rule here is that out of turn action is not binding regardless of action changing in front or not. It's a dumb rule that I disagree with (and I have voiced my displeasure with the rule on many occasions), but according to the rules of the room afaik, the supervisor made the wrong ruling.
2nd. The Supervisor made the wrong decision based upon this rooms rules.
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10-10-2013 , 07:15 PM
As others have said, the supervisor screwed it up. The rule in cash games at THR is that any OOT action is nonbinding, no matter if the action changes or not. Many of us have complained about it, but they haven't changed it.

But in tournaments at THR, the opposite is true. Then they use the "it's binding unless action changes" rule. I wonder if it was a new supervisor who assumed we do it like most casinos in the world, or if he just got a brain cramp and used the tournament rule. Or he may have just been a knucklehead, as shown by his statement "it could go either way". Obviously it can't go either way in that particular game in the particular room. They have a rule for it. It may go a different way at another casino, but shouldn't vary in the same casino.

But we've often said that if you call over 3 supervisors for a ruling, you'll get 3 different decisions.
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10-10-2013 , 11:45 PM
One thing is certain: different floors will rule differently. In fact, even the same floor will rule inconsistently on different days. That's not a HR problem, it's just the way things are at poker rooms everywhere. Unfortunate, but true.
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