Why's that? (Honestly have no idea why, so please feel free to fill me in :-)

Played 1/2 PLO/8 yesterday and found that a lot of people including 2 floors seem to have a different understanding of making a pot raise. W/o a call they were believing with the 3 out (considering the small counts as two) a person could make a pot raise to 12! Their logic is that calling the two makes it six and they could double it. Am I crazy believing that it could be only made 8 in that situation? It was funny b/c I felt I was at stud table how mad everyone got over this and only 2 of us at first thought u could make it 8. The lady I argued with said that I played in a home game that's the only way that pot raise could be 8.

Hello all,
Thinking about making some more Foxwoods trips now. Generally I have always played in the 1/2 games buying in for max. Game seems very passive and a bunch of limping. I was just curious how the 2/5 game compares to the 1/2? What would a good win rate consist of at these games? Prob newb questions but am very interested in making a few trips a month now. Sucks as I am outside of Boston so it is about an hour and half. What are the room rates there and is anything available at a cheap price if all i really care about is a place to sleep for the night?

Thanks

8 is correct. 7 if they view the SB as 1 and not 2. Major logic fail on the floor's part.

Lmfaoooooo +1

Yeah, they are crazy, you can't double the $6 you match it for a total of $8.
Here's the quick way I learned, facing a bet, 3x last bet and add all bets and pot before that bet. 3x2=6 plus small blind which is considered 2 = $8.

If you have 5 players who limped for $2 and then first player bets $8, fold, call $8, call $8 a pot bet for last player would be $24 plus $8+$8+$10(preflop pot) = $50.
If you want to re pot, 4x last pot bet. So first player could re pot for $200.

Why is that?

Love incompetent hotel staff. I get sent to my room in Pequot, keys failed. Return back to the desk and I let them know. I get sent back to the room w/ keys that worked. However, 3 old ladies (they weren't in the room yet, took the elevator up with me) look at me with shock as I walked into their room. So I retreat back down with one of the ladies. She asks for a food voucher for her hassle. Denied, best I can do is a late check out (1pm instead of 12pm, lolz!) Then after the lady is all set, she just throws a suite at me. Boom! No complaints from me. Please mess up more in the future.

You are right that it's 8, there are a few regulars that if they are at the table will take control of pot size bets and help along, because usually you've got a 50/50 chance the dealer knows what is correct. (as much as we try to teach them, most rather have us figure out the number and say ok with whatever we come out with)

The 3x trailing bet and adding the rest is the quickest and easiest, but in the situation you find yourself in, after you say pot, throw out your $2 call, then ask how much is in the pot? let them count the pot and toss in the other $6.

What time did the game start? i was watching with interest the current games running board and didn't notice it was going, i would have come down. How long did it last? was it a full table?

Well the problem was once we had a dealer that actually knew how pot limit bets work the other players would call floor and it would be one of the two floors that would rule it incorrectly. I gave up for a while b/c I was looking for a credible site (i.e. wsop, etc.) so it could be irrefutable but couldn't find one. Although, I couldn't find anywhere that they were correct. I know Dave (reg at omaha/8) would have gone off on everyone.

Why wouldn't it be 7? 1sb + 2bb + 2call = 5?

Often in PLO, the SB will be considered completed for pot-size purposes. So it would be 2sb + 2bb + 2call = 6.

If you had one caller and then it was folded around to the big blind, (including the SB folding) then a pot size bet after the flop would be 5. The assumed call by the small blind preflop does not carry to the pot size after the flop if the sb folds. Also keep in mind, the rake is considered part of the pot and should be added to any pot size bet.

And it is still a mystery why PLO doesn't get more players at Foxwoods.

And this is the right way.

And this is the right way.

I think I said it once earlier itt and I will say it again. I played 1/2 PLO 8 for about a half hour over a year or two ago and it was the most miserable experience I ever had playing poker. I left down 7 bux or something and would not ever play it again there.

I would be open to playing high only though.

a whole half hour? two years ago?

+1 to PLO8 being a cluster **** at FW

2/5 PLO ftw

Played plo8 about 3-4 sessions down there. I haven't found it to be incredibly slow, but it's obv still much slower than nlhe.

I actually don't mind most the regs in that game, but have seen a couple huge ****hers at the table.

Would prefer PLO or either mix. I still would recommend the game if you need a break from nlhe.

I had never been around more miserable people in my life and I can't imagine it is any different at any other times so I kind of made a promise to myself to not play with them again.

Like I said if high only was spread I would certainly play that. Might even prefer it to NL if the action was good enough. I played 2/5 PLO at Caesar's and held my own just fine and enjoyed it.

Something about the PLO 8 players at Foxwoods just rubbed me the wrong way. If it is insanely different right now I would be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if 3 to 5 of the same faces from 2 years are sitting around the same game hoping for a fish to show up.

That would be AWESOME! As long as you are talking about high only which I think you are.

would 2/5 plo be 500 max? think itd need to be 800 max atleast

Buyins are the same as nl afaik

She's correct. Buyins are the same as nlhe at all stakes.