not true at all. everyone is listening.

basic strat is fine, half hour conversations about in depth strategy are terrible, go take a walk somewhere or something.

LOL if you really think this. Even if they have no idea what you're talking about, it's intimidating for recreational players, and you're educating the fishier regs.....people pay good money for coaching you know. And not to mention if any really good regs are in earshot you are giving away a ton of info about your thought process. Why do you think I didn't ask them to stop?

Got to admit I listen in on this myself. Generally, you can tell their level of play depending on the sophistication of their discussion of a single topic. Even using a term incorrectly helps narrow down their playing ability. Pretty useful. Even saying, "I'll send you a PM" says things.

Compliment taken, as it shows that you actually think I have constructive things to say at the table.

I would prefer you telling this to my face instead of being a little ***** about it and posting it on a forum, though. Grow some, tell it to my face, and maybe I will bother taking you seriously. I am a short, skinny 25 year old and even I have the guts to not be calling someone out electronically without putting a name to my post.

Made one of my worst plays today, an awful 4 bet all-in with AQo. There was absolutely no need.

Really need to improve at avoiding these mental breakdowns in my sessions. Seems like I can go along 4-5 hours at a time playing pretty solid. But then will have a random hand where I get way too aggressive in a bad spot.

I need to start making myself walk away for about 5 mins every two hours or so.

Hope everyone else avoided mistakes tonight, and made some money.

Enjoy the nice weather tomorrow if you aren't sitting inside in an oval with mostly strangers.

It might get harder to get seated this AM, MoheganSun is going to 9 players per table today, & alot of players said they're moving to Foxwoods.....we'll see how well that goes over???

Starting in the 1 o'clock tournament today... Hopefully I'll be down in the cash games soon though. Look for the post it...

There seems to be an assumption that MS would not have extra dealers working (about 10%) so they can run more tables and seat everyone. This 9 players per table idea should make more money for the casino, for every 100 players they will be collecting rake from 11 tables instead of 10.

anyone opposed to 9 handed tables is a supernit

+++ 100 Mirrion.

foxwoods is not your own personal 2 + 2 buddy group and discussion. keep it to yourself-you are KILLING the ACTION, KILLING the GAME. Not to mention, you will come across as douchey 90% of the time, even to thinking players. I know it's very exciting to show everyone that you are good at something but just contain your excitement 10 minutes long enough to jump onto your blackberry and post it here.

really bro? for the amount of time you spend in card rooms (according to your posts), and the amount of time you spend on here, you shouldn't have to be told. you should know this is not only poor form, it's bad business. I don't think turning it into a dick measuring contest really does any good. Instead of being stubborn, maybe you should just think about it and say "yeah you know what, he's got a point, i shouldn't let the fact that i enjoy talking strat with other players get in the way of creating the best game conditions possible" idk

Gotta admit my guilt
I was playing with a friend saturday who agreed to watch my game and give pointers and we were overheard discussing hands it was the first and last time i do that at a table . we would have been better served playing and watching each other for a time and replaying hands and strategy over a coffee or noodle break
i will admit i play poker for the social as well as the monetary pluses of the game
sometimes the enjoyment side of the brain puts the good of the game side on tilt

Really, bro. "Shouldn't have to be told", what are you, my boss?

If I want to talk strategy to make myself more of a target for some of the players at my stake, let me. If it pisses off other regs and tilts them, even better. One of the greatest perks of playing poker for a living is not needing to "check oneself" during a session, the cards do not care how well you perform at social etiquette or taboo.

It is my choice to be affable. It is also my choice to treat everyone with the utmost respect and dignity as long as they return the favor. And it is also my choice to focus on my game at the table above all else without caring what comes out of my mouth, even though people who know me will agree that I am one of the nicest guys you will ever meet.

If it offends you or anyone else, that is why Bose makes noise-canceling headphones. I am not at the table to accommodate your game conditions, I am there to take your money.

This. I wish Foxwoods would go to 9.

I feel like discussing strategy isn't as big a deal at 5/10 since most recreational players that take a shot at it kind of know what they're getting themselves into, just in terms of the whole having people aware that you're kind of good aspect.

The ideal is obv someone who can take beats and shrug it off as well as keep their strategy talk to a minimum. But the former is way more important than the latter and if IWSJ is capable of keeping his mouth shut when it comes to not berating fish, then I don't think its a huge deal that he's a bit overeager about strategy.

Very good post.

I say, whatever works for you is okay by me.
Even though 99% of the time, I am the most outgoing, talkative person at the table, occasionally it suits my game better to throw in my headphones and not say a word. Sometimes, I laugh and say 'good catch' when sucked out on and occasionally against the right opponent, I feel a berating will cause him to tilt off his newly won stack.
At some tables, I will talk basic strategy because, as said before, it will give me far more insight into someone's game than if I had played with them for days and other times, I wont say a word, although, I NEVER would act like those dingbats in the women's forum who advocate acting like an idiot(GOD, that forum tilts me)
Why should it bother you what someone else talks about?
Also, why call someone out on an internet forum but not to his face? Cowardly, I would say

Tables at Foxy are basically less than 10 for the vast majority of the time. 9 handed tables would lead to lots of 6-7 handed play. Most live players are not looking to play a 6 handed table format.

fds posted this in the msnl thread as well as the hsnl etiquette thread and i have to say i agree with almost every point. i do think in some circumstances discussing a hand can be fine esp. if you're keeping it down and not making it the focus of the table. most of this stuff is common sense, which most 2p2ers should have anyways.

"Make the games fun and enjoyable. Do not talk about any poker strategy at the table. The only exception to this (that I can think of now) is if a whale makes a comment about the hand and then you basically say anything to appease the dude. Don't be the nitty douchebag that doesn't want to throw an ante into the game. Stupid prop bets like red/black otf for $100 a flop are good for the game. Get involved in the conversation. They're not there to analyze every little thing and will leave if the game is silent and stuffy. When you're not playing, read a ****ing book or newspaper so that you have something to actually say. Many of these guys have interesting things to talk about, and don't want to hear about poker strategy, the durrr/jungleman challenge, or how much you've degened it up in the sportsbook. A lot of these guys are nice guys and will invite you out to dinner or whatever just by talking with them at the table and getting to know them over time. It's pretty nice if they give you a call when they want to play poker. Also, don't ask to show the hands, and don't ridicule anybody's play. Basically, don't be the dumb**** that ruins the game"

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wowww so do i. and havent been there in like 3 months

agree, hate dumb****s who talk strat....dont implicitly "tell" fish how to play

God, I am actually missing Rapini

as a long time hold em reg at the woods, i have just recently began playing strictly 10-20 stud and must say the games are great and the game itself is great...if anyone else is sick of hold em like myself, feel free to broaden your horizons....the stud games (10/20 and 20/40 mostly) i feel are looser and have a few more betting rounds, making good pots, and i feel have people in them who care less about the money than the miserable hold em nits/regs...it could just be me, but i can see stud catching on with the younger crowd, especially the players who love to sit in limit games with big stacks and mix it up...it took me one time playing it to love it...give it a try