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Im heading to AC for the first time on Saturday and want to play at Borg it says its $400 for a hotel room though, is there a poker rate? Or a cheaper nearby place to stay?

in between poker sessions i play Bj and let it ride.

just got into craps.

I play more and more table games and less poker as i get older lol

Pretty sure there is not. The only thing online is a record of comp dollars earned in the previous months (i.e. not current), so there's no actual tracking going on. Just a report after all is said and done.

Best bet is to just go in person to the back podium, have them look up your record on their computer and then you or the staff member can manually add up your play for the month. Takes just a minute, but you probably shouldn't do this too often or when they're trying to call a ton of players to open seats.

Taj and Borgata are pretty similar in what they'll rewards. Sort of. For 2-5 PLO you get $2 an hour at Borgata. And $0 at Taj, because they never get 2-5 PLO running. (but the 2/5 games would get $2/hour anyway, right?)

If anything, it should be easier at the Borgata because 1/2 will pay 50% more than Taj. And you can still abuse the comp system at the B, because you can stay clocked in for a good part of the day without being at a seat, while Taj reswipes everyone a lot more frequently.

And VP should be about the same also, which is almost nothing compared to regular slot play. OK, it can be something, but the comp rates should be similar for both properties.

Basically, I'm wondering if there might be a perception issue. Or if not, I'd like to hear why Taj is that much easier.

yeah I have been playing some tables here and there along with my poker, even though i know i shouldnt lol. But it has mainly been paigow, which i hear you dont get much comp on?

and i dont think its a perception issue cause i started out playing nickel VP at the taj, maybe 3 hour sessions of this while milking free drinks. and only a few weeks later started getting 2 nights a week comped (no weekends of course). after going there a while and putting in some tables and poker i get small but decent offers, $25 slot dollars here and there, and the free rooms continue.

I basicly just want to be able to get free rooms on weekdays at the borgata which i used to get a long time ago, and be able to at least generate enough comp to cover a meal each trip. With the loss of online poker I am now forced to get my PLO fix in real life , and the overhead can add up with these crazy gas costs.

[I mean your present 'comp balance' on-line which...]

(1) You can find out your present on-line balance on-line which for most poker players allows them to divide number of comps by comps per hour to get number of hours played, you do not need to take the time of the shift manager to do this if you are the least bit competent on-line. (B) I do not find the qualitative differences you do between Borgata and the Taj, the analysis is messy, and since this is the B thread I'll simply make this point for the beginner, there is no one in the NorthEast that does the great job Stan does in recruiting new players, - I'll leave the regular to find his own way...

QUOTE=esch;26503097]Taj and Borgata are pretty similar in what they'll rewards. Sort of. For 2-5 PLO you get $2 an hour at Borgata. And $0 at Taj, because they never get 2-5 PLO running. (but the 2/5 games would get $2/hour anyway, right?)

If anything, it should be easier at the Borgata because 1/2 will pay 50% more than Taj. And you can still abuse the comp system at the B, because you can stay clocked in for a good part of the day without being at a seat, while Taj reswipes everyone a lot more frequently.

And VP should be about the same also, which is almost nothing compared to regular slot play. OK, it can be something, but the comp rates should be similar for both properties.

Basically, I'm wondering if there might be a perception issue. Or if not, I'd like to hear why Taj is that much easier.[/QUOTE]

after playing poker, call up their tournament hotline and ask what their poker rate is. It's not exceedingly hard to get a free weekday room at the Borg now. Hell, sometimes I'm able to get a free Friday room and most of my play nowadays is 1/2.

There's some pretty cheap hotels on Black/White Horse Pike 5-10 minutes away if you have car. Nothing great if you're paying under 100 on Saturday but I usually go by the rule if it has free internet its usually good enough if youre not spending too much time in the room. That's where I'd stay if I wasn't degen enough to get free rooms or at worst reasonable prices on weekends

It's still sort of a perception issue.

You asked about someone's comp dollar status. But you were looking at the comp offers stuff and dollar stuff. Definitely can be looked at as two separate things.

The dollars is pretty straightforward. The second... OMG... really seems undecipherable at times with what levels of play triggers what rewards. Sorry I couldn't help you more there.

I beat my brother's level of play in all areas, but he sometimes gets better offers than me. But we currently both get the Sun-Fri free rooms and he only does barely enough 2/5NL to get a Black card.

And yes, Pai Gow gets a lower comp rate because of all the pushing/slow pace. Basically, the higher the edge for the casino, the higher the comp rate.

You're right about being able to look up your current comp dollar balance online. But completely off topic. And it looks like you're replying to the wrong person/quote. And messing up the quoting system.

The question was about tracking rated hours in current month for tracking freeroll/bonus dollars promotion. Very hard to do this from the Account Balances page alone in most circumstances. And you do not need to bother a shift manager to have a staff member look up hours. Anyone behind the desk should be able to do it. And the idea is to do it when they aren't busy. During these times they should be happy to be of service in this manner.

And blanket statements about Stan's generous strategy for developing play at the B, while true, aren't helpful for clearing up this discussion. The first poster seemed to be getting free room offers pretty easily at Taj. And I'll support that it does seem easier to trigger the free rooms offer there than at the Borgata.

Doesn't seem like you really read my post or his post. Or the third guy's.

Here's a temporary suggestion until you trigger the free rooms. A lot of people do get free rooms. Bring up the topic of how to get "free room offers" at a table and maybe someone will chime in and offer to share/sell a bed to you. I've definitely offered an extra bed plenty of times. I just ask that they leave something for housekeeping. Kind of depends on your social skills, I suppose.

Oh, and in case you didn't know from the millions of times its been mentioned here, an email request to stanstrickland@theborgata.com (Dir. Poker Ops) can hook you up with a free room in a lot of situations where there has been very little play history.

Ok, let me give you a kindergarten class on it, now that I see it may be appropriate: (1) before you start play put your card in a slot machine and check your comp balance (2) play poker (3) when you finish playing poker check your comp balance before your next session. If you played 2 hours of 2-4 limit hold 'em you received 2 comps, 2 comps divided by one comp per hour = 2 hours, you can also do this at home by logging into your my borgata account.

I do not agree that it is easier to trigger free room offers at the Taj than at Borgata, but that's just my personal experience in the past few years...

Whether you are a new or more experienced player if you are triggering room offers at the Taj but not Borgata I would PM Stan...

yeah I have been talking with Stan he is a great guy and an asset to this poker room for sure.

I will just keep up the 2/5 and keep doing at least an hour of VP per trip to establish myself as a semi slot player also as it seemed this was the key to my free Taj rooms.

Is there a 20-40 or 40-80 game?

Call

Stan hooked me up, if you think you should get it ask him

i was transferred and put on hold for a while. lost patience..im on tilt. When will the live game report actually be accurate? I heard Borgata was getting Bravo? Parx and Del have it and its great!

They usually have a 20 dunno about the rest but I have very limited hands at pa casinos but they are all whacked. So many coolers it's not enough funny

Played at Borgata finally after moving to AC in January of 2011. Beautiful room. Much safer than the Taj and actually has a 10-20 FLHE running. More games than Taj as well. Bathroom is in the room (off to the side, obviously), food stores are just downstairs. My only complaint is there seems to be no water fountain nearby.

Regarding the games, I've played the 10-20 FLHE as mentioned above. I did notice there were pairs of buddies playing, though I won't say there was collusion. The big fish I saw went broke quickly, alas (they raised and reraised blind).

Players do have a tendency to go after blinds more aggressively. However, everyone chopped 10 handed when it came to that. I found my blind play is weak (vs. players who go after blinds aggressively) so I'm demoting myself for a month or so to $3-6 FLHE while I work on that.

The one thing I'll point out is that two (or more) buddies (who pretend not to know each other) can play each other with weak cards (time is paid so no rake) and lull you into thinking they play weak cards all the time. They won't against you. Just a tip.

Overall though, even the "regulars" (who do appear to play well on the flop and after) seem to be playing way too loosely preflop (overconfidence, I suspect). Although I'm sure they think they can make it up on the flop and after, calling one of my early raises with 74s is suicide. These may not have been "regular" regulars though, on further thought.


It's a well run, very nice room with enough games (not like back in '93, but then not much is like back in '93). Any thoughts? Thanks.

I noticed the person who looks like Bruce Willis when I played the 10-20 FLHE. I figured he couldn't be Uncle Brucie since he looked about 10 years younger than Bruce Willis. But now, I'm just not sure.

Is that guy Bruce Willis, or someone who looks like Bruce Willis. I bantered with him a bit and he said his name was Paul. If he's not, the resemblance is uncanny.

I have played in this game regularly for a few years and really don't know what you are talking about with this comment, I certainly haven't noticed it.

And no, that is certainly not actually Bruce Willis in the game, just his local poker-playing doppelganger.

That was just a tip for any game. I didn't say it was happening in the game I played in. I worded it poorly.

As for Bruce, I was understandably curious. It's always nice to know who you're playing with. Besides, I'm a fan of the original B.W., so I have something to tell my brother either way.

Thanks much!

quick question about borgata comps... can you use comp $$ at mur mur? if so is it dollar for dollar?