how long is late registration?

hey stan, do SNG's stop running at a certain time?

This thread is diverting towards discussion of EV vs variance (IFSATG, I still don't think you know what EV is).

I would love to go to the Borg over Thanksgiving weekend. I'll have to see if I'll be anywhere near the area that weekend. The place will be rocking!

Okie-Dokie I didn't mean to start a rant. I give up

On topic... any thoughts on some added stimuli to get the PCHE game going? I suggested free rake if it starts short and/or no BBJ drop.

Is it worth the effort?

Unless the house is taking a cut of the bbj, and I didn't think that was the case, then the bbj is in fact pretty much neutral ev. Extremely high variance, but still neutral ev. And even if the house is taking a cut, I bet the percentage is low enough that the bbj is still less -ev then some of those bets you just mentioned.

Edit: Slow Pony.

You can register until the end of the second level.

Stan

well, i mean, a friend told me they stopped running around 11pm-12am. true or no? if i were to come down and try to get one started will i have a chance at them filling up?

It really all depends on the how well they are doing that night. If the lists dry up, we will send the tournament staff home. If the lists are long we will keep them going.

Stan

Borg SNGs pay two or three spots?

http://www.theborgata.com/Main.cfm?C...46DCB3036E8E5D

Stan

Stan,

I know that Borgata runs a free shuttle from the Aces train to the borgata. Does it also run a shuttle back to the aces train? If so, where does it leave from, and at what times?

Thanks,
--jman220

Good question! The problem is I do not know the answer. Will get back to you on this one.

thanks for the help, stan.

Thanks!

Okay, so mini-TR since I've been down here for two days now. Props to Stan for hooking me up with some rooms.

Played 2/5 yesterday from 11am-5am this morning. Bought in full at 500, picked up 1760. Solid. Felt kind of bad for the reg I always see here who sat down around 3 in the morning and proceeded to lose 3 buyins in 20 minutes as he ran into three full houses (twice with the second nut boat, and once against me).

Slept until 3pm this afternoon (it feels like it's 1 in the afternoon right now...bad news) and went downstairs to try to satellite in to the 500k. Card dead for the first hour and almost lost all of my patience, but walked outside during the break, took a few deep breaths and came back to coast into final 30. I folded aces once and a few other premium hands when we were on the semi-bubble (last four tables).

This is where things get interesting and, IMHO, extremely frustrating. I'm going to PM Stan with my concerns as well, but I wanted to share the situation with the community for some feedback. When we got down to ~32 players (30 get a seat), some bald guy at the table adjacent mine decides to fill the role of poker police. He proposes that everybody chips in 40 bucks to give to someone who can then shove just to end the tournament. Similar to what happens often when maybe 10 people remain in a smaller tournament. He starts shouting out directives to anyone who will listen; assigning others who agree with him to collect money from the people at their tables. At this point there are four tables left and four floor people monitoring the situation. They're trying to quiet the noise and telling people to keep cash off the table. Many people don't want to agree to this and there's a lot of confusion. Meanwhile, the bubble drags on, and there's word that players at at least one table are folding around (including one hand when the blinds were at 4000/8000/1000 where the BB had 500 behind and collected the pot). Finally, one guys pushes all in and immediately mucks his hand to end the tournament. The other short stacks celebrate while the bald guy starts walking around literally pressuring everybody to pony up for the guy who he says did what he did b/c he thought there was an agreement between everyone. He goes table to table and lobbies groups and individuals, blatantly judging and insulting anyone who doesn't want to comply.

My opinion about all of is this is that there were a number of people who didn't want to pitch in from the beginning. A lot of people were sitting on huge stacks and had no chance of bubbling and felt that it wasn't their responsibility to subsidize a short-stack for any number of mistakes s/he may have made to make them the short stack. I am included in that subset of people. The last 30 minutes of the tournament were chaotic and uncomfortable, and while Borgata does not officially play a party to chops or deals, I propose they go one step further (at least in satellites such as these) and prohibit the discussion of deals like this. If the possibility were eliminated, the confusion and the uncomfortable pressure put on a relatively large number of people would be avoided. /rant

Good luck to everyone else playing in Day 1B...see you tomorrow.

These huge satellites where there are multiple players getting a seat can be frustrating. We have had satellites where 70 plus players are getting paid. You probably encountered the normal crap that we try to avoid. At some point, we usually put penalties on players for talking chop. I wasn't there tonight to witness it. But i know what you are talking about. I will say this, do not let any player bully you into a chop. Stand your ground. If you feel you are being bullied let the floor know so that they may handle the situation. If the tables are not playing and folding around, we will redraw the tables.

BTW congratulations on your win!

Stan

thanks.

Thanks Stan. That's exactly what I did. I might be more prone to chip in if a reasonable argument was put forth rather than being told that I'm an ******* or that "I've got four guys at your table who are gentlemen." Chuck was around tonight and handled things pretty well. I told him about the table that was stalling and he said he was keeping an eye on things...we never redrew though.

Jut got down to the room and the bad beat JUST hit. Quad kings over quad 4s. Board read 44KKx. On a 2/5 table. Sick.

Played four tournaments at the Borgata last week, saw some good things and some bad things. This was my first visit to the poker room.
As mentioned before by others, the chairs are in fact quite comfortable. The drink service was also quick. Although the waitress was a bit snippy to one player when he asked for a drink while she was in her delivery phase. The way she answered was uncalled for in my opinion. She didn’t quite chew his head off, but there will be scars..

The 150,000 guarantee sign in went very well on Wednesday. I got there at 10:50 for the 11:00 start. The line went all the way down the hall past the small table game area, past the slots and started curving to the walkway where the restrooms are. I was signed up by 11:40. We missed one level.
Players were quite friendly. Not much trash at the tables where I played.
Tables were rather hard to find. For the 260/40 on Thursday I was at table 52. Table 52 wasn’t near table 51, it was in the corner in the ancillary area. Had to ask three people where the table was.
It was very hard to hear when the blinds changed since our table was in a corner. I was facing the monitor, but on three occasions, I put in the previous levels blinds right after a change and, well, no one, including the dealer who I was next to, said a thing.

Play was quite aggressive –maybe too aggressive for what some of the people had -- and while I didn’t cash, I had a lot of fun.


Room isn’t perfect but it is good. I will go back next year.

Stan,

How does a 198k BBJ pool reset to $102,340? Do you try to keep the reset near 50% (must take some time to backfill the bbj pool)?

Is any % of the BBJ kept for the next pool? If 10k (simple example) is collected in a day for the BBJ what % goes to the current pool, the next pool (and the next next pool?)?

thanks

B

more comps for poker players plzzzzzz

When do the January offers come out?

I find it interesting that ALL Mon-Thurs free rooms are still available in Dec. (thru the 23rd).

I guess it's (usually) a bit quieter between (not during) Turkey day and X-mas week?

I asked this in the tournament forum about the Jan open but neither tab/stan responded so my guess is that maybe they aren't permitted to discuss it....either that or they just HATE me..lol

When you get a chance Stan, what's the total number of players for the deep stack between day 1a and 1b, thanks