I went from a Superfast at 46" to a RBZ at 44.5" (was fit for RBZ, not for SF) and actually picked up 3 mph in ball speed, along with higher launch and some needed spin. Picked up ~12 yards on the monitor.

Also I spent a little while hitting my 17 deg R11 hybrid with an 85g rip aldila x shaft (too light imo) off the tee on the simulator and compared it with my old 17 degree 585h with a 104g proforce x shaft. I mi**** the R11 so often, but it was still going a 1-4 yards further than the 585h. I'm bringing that 585h to Colorado with me though since I remembered how money the thing was to hit... I nutted it like 30 straight times. Pumped to try some new hybrids to see if anything comes close to that feel. Also, never again with an 85g shaft in a hybrid, sooo light.

Was also playing around with the old titleist butter knives I had. I think they're 680s? They're like 5 years old and are straight blades, but my god I forgot how good they felt. I was hitting my old 2 iron (which was launching 1 degree lower than my current 3 iron haha) and just striping it over and over. Then I mi**** one, and it went 215 instead of 240-245. Now I remember why I stopped playing them. They're so much easier to work than my current TM muscle cavity (which I do love), and about 4-5 yards shorter it seems controlling for loft as best I could.

Also I just realized my R11 is an inch longer than the old 585h, no wonder it's so much harder to hit. Makes me really want to try the shorter driver now.

Kind of opposed - the 9i is 41 degrees and I hit it about 160. If I bend down the PW and drop that yardage to 130 or so, my distances would sit at 160, 130, 115. I realize I can grip down or ease up but I would prefer to take a standard swing, especially since I have room in my bag.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wz4DVqAiOA

Whats a great drill to keep the club outside the hands?

Your boss, I have a superfast driver as well....are they standard like 46"?

Three things happen with the hands/arms in the takeaway. They move back and in, they rotate, and they c0ck.

Your hand path should move in pretty dramatically. Like, if one end of the spectrum was straight back was straight back and the other end was banging into your right hip, you should probably err like 70% on the hip side. Hands moving inside=angular momentum.

Then they rotate and c0ck at the same rate. If the rotation is happening too fast the club gets inside the hands when viewed DTL pretty early. If the c0cking is happening too fast the club gets up and outside the hands too fast.

Watch that TW video, then watch a Fowler video. TW matches up the rotation and the c0cking. Fowler delays the rotation quite a bit.

I think so. That's where things are moving for sure. I think the stock in the RBZ plays 45.5 or 46, I just got a custom deal when I got fit.

Learned to draw and hook today! Was able to draw all clubs except the driver. Big improvements are coming.

just to clarify what i think i know but not 100% sure. so if wrist cocking happens faster than rotating, with very little rotation at all, does that produce an "across the line" position of the club shaft at top of swing?

and vise vera, does too much rotation cause a "laid off" position at the top of backswing?

YB,

You are the new most knowledgable poster on here. Thanks for the insight. How did you learn all this?

Mark

FYI, I watched a fowler vid yesterday when we were talking about shoulder and deep angle....it is amazing how "deep" rickie gets at the top. His hands are literally underneath his shoulders

Went to Top Golf for the first time yesterday. Anyone who has never been -- GO! It's skeeball for golf. Amazing. Fun times were had even though $tinger 88 won my monies

Yeah, makes sense to me that those would be the likely results unless a compensation is made later.


Appreciate the words. It's not true, golfdoc for sure and NXT likely as well and who knows who else is lurking, but I appreciate it.

I have learned just by reading, watching video, and have taken some lessons from some good instructors. Obv I'm a S&T fanboi, and I credit a lot of what I have picked up to reading and watching their stuff.

Feel free to criticize that impact position YB

7-iron in hand in that picture.

Path looks pretty far out. Lot of gap in between your arms to be right before impact. I think I've said this to you before, but I would think you would struggle with hooks, but you don't, right?

Tough to tell much from one still photo.

Hooks definitely more than slices

Like I said, looking at one still photo so take this with a huge grain of salt, but maybe stick a tee or something under your left armpit and hit some balls? I gotta think you lose that pressure point pretty soon after that position in the photo.

anyone know what the torque # in shaft specs represents?

RULES QUESTION:

the other day i was in some thick fescue rough near a green. i hacked the ball out onto the green, but somehow in the process i also hit another ball that I didn't see: the second ball was apparently right underneath my ball. the second ball was just a random ball that someone else had lost, wasn't the ball of someone i was playing with.

is there a penalty there?

Any help on this would be great.

With my irons, I tend to hit the ball a little bit inside on the face. When I got fitted I was told I could get them cut a half inch and that might be optimal.

Question, when hitting the ball should I actually try to force myself to hit it more towards the toe so it's square on the face. Usually with my longer irons I think it happens more. Or should I choke up a bit on the club.

try a little more bend forward at the hips.

i was hitting it on the toe constantly, i was bent over too much. i tried a more upright posture and i started hitting it on the sweet spot. but sometimes, i start hitting toward the heel of the club, because i'm too upright, and i need more bend to get back to center.

From the USGA website:

Resistance to twisting. The lower the no. the fewer degrees the shaft should twist during the downswing.

let me just vent here for a min....

I've been playing golf for 12 years (little when i started). I golfed today like I have never ever golfed before, and it's never happened.

Literally every single shot was horrible. My drives were just awful, some were duck-hooks (which if I hit a bad drive it's usually that) then others were huge slices.

I then hit 2 drives right down the middle, the ball came off like a ****ing rock. I usually have a high trajectory (8.5degree x-stiff shaft) maybe I am swinging horrible. I hit my irons like hell, don't think I hit a single green.

When I am at the range (went 2 days ago) I was hitting the ball really well (it's off mats). No idea what happened today.

mats have a way of tricking you into thinking you're hitting it good.

you can hit it really fat and it will come off decently because your club is bouncing off the mat instead of digging into the ground.