The wardrobe turn around is obvious, but are you really saying that women's clothing is more expensive than men's clothing?

A good quality blazer probably costs you as much as an entire woman's outfit.

Does Primark exist in the US?

Not entirely sure but I've never heard of it.

I would say it is if you compare like items yes. I do think that women tend to shop lower than men for the same income level just because they have a decreased ability to amortize the cost over wearings.

Further, women get nickel and dimed. PR bought an Armani Black Label suit and she had to pay for all the tailoring which is standard for women. At the same retailer I've bought suits both Armani and lower and I get all my tailoring for free. The same applies for pants or anything else. If I buy something I pay the price of the item and no more. If she buys something that requires alterations she has to pay.

Also women have additional items that men don't have -- specifically bras, handbags, and accessories. Their shoe requirements are vastly greater as well.

Its fine to always pay if shes your gf or someone you are dating. But i think its ludicrous to always pay for every female friend you know Just because they spend more on their appearance. That just sounds like a silly excuse to me. I know girls that would take offence to it if a guy always insisted to pay just because they are female.

and this.

The girls who get offended I don't get. I've never encountered this and given my age and the amount I used to go out my sample size is by far the largest.

I've encounter girls who are suspicious when first being exposed to this because a lot of goof try to use paying as a way to then exert pressure but that is never a major issue and it disappears almost instantly.

I don't understand why you guys know so many girls who would take offence to this nor how I've managed to never meet any.

Most of the ones I know would feel like they are perfectly capable of paying themselves and find it demeaning that they are not treated like a guy who is expected to pitch in an equal/fair amount or at the worst occasionally buy the next round even if you pick up most of them on a given night out.

feminism imo

yeah i've probably paid for hundreds of girls (friends/dates) and i've never had anyone get offended either. a couple of girls (friends) who i take out frequently may say it's unnecessary and go out of their way to show their appreciation but they know how i am so there's no use in fighting the payment itself.

the vast majority of women who claim to feel this way are just putting up a front and want to be domesticated to some degree. you would be shocked how many "feminists" are insulted when a guy doesn't carry heavy boxes for them, offer seat on crowded subway, etc etc

Pretty often when i got out on the dates, the girl insists on paying for her & myself, especially if i covered the first date, and this is the 2nd. What usually happens is that I'll cover dinner or whatever, then they will insist on covering drinks when we go on to the next place. I've had girls insist on paying for first dates as well on more than one occasion. Also had a girl on HER birthday insist on paying for my entrance to an amusement park, which was not cheap at all, even after my objections, which is entirely ridiculous...

Am i doing it wrong SL?

was there a second date? i would interpret a girl offering to pay for dinner as a polite means of rejection.

i don't think you're doing it "wrong", it's just not how i would do things. i would never let her pay for me unless it was my birthday or something.

in my experience, girls who appreciate it will find other ways to give back. so i might pay for every dinner but these girls also come over with food/drinks and cook for me, buy me random gifts, etc.

Yeah there was definitely a second date, actually one of the girls is one of my very good friends now. Usually in my case, when they offer to pick up the tab it 's a very good sign.

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Disagree on domesticated comment but agree with rest. Subway hasn't ever come up but carrying stuff, exiting/entering elevators after women, openin doors, etc None of these things are against feminism. Non-crazy feminists believe in equality of opportunity not equality of treatment.

She asked me what I wish for on my wishlist
Have you ever asked your bitch for other bitches?

Letting other people out of elevators first and holding the door open for people is something I'd do regardless of their gender so it hugely annoys me when some people take offence.

i think henry meant always letting a woman enter the elevator first. a lot of men do not do this, i see it every day.

How else will you check their ass out?

I find it hard to even pay for first dates (successful first dates as well). Every girl argues so much, it's such a pain. I would have thought that a first date would be fine, and only latter dates would cause arguments, but even first dates they try really hard to pay.

I do think Aus/NZ girls are much more feminist though than American girls when it comes to this, though in saying that my ex was very strong willed in terms of splitting things 50/50.

say "shut up bitch, im paying, if you want to repay me, get on this dick hoe".

I havent encountered it too often but on occasion a girl 'insists' on paying, busting my balls asking me why i insist on paying and why we cant just chop it up. What would a proper response be?

Again, this doesnt happen too frequently and a "dont worry, i got this" usually does the trick, but im struggling on what to say in that particular situation

I agree with this. If a girl has helped me out with issues or something I'll take her out and she will appreciate it but if we just randomly meet up for lunch they would find it weird and insist on paying, even though I usually earn more than them since they are at uni.