Well played, Kukra. Thanks for leading us for the most part of the week, but now we gotta figure it out ourselves.

Is there a mechanic where if I find a wolf on d1 and try to tell everyone for a week but he is still alive, you just remove him from a live player list? That would be great, actually!

Not really, but there IS a problem with the mod. She spent too much time this morning not doing stuff instead of preparing and inhaling her caffeine and as a result is still only half awake despite having been up since 4 am.

Player list should be correct now, thank you.

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IIRC, we are yet to solve the question of who won the second place in that roleplay minigame, but the consensus was that it must have been a wolf. I didn't remember Kruze stating anything about participating or winning in that contest, but this seems to indicate that he at least participated?

KruZe, did you participate and did you win anything?

This entire post might as well say HOWL. Has any villager ever in this world thought "I don't feel at risk of being killed today"? Why would any villager have this thought? When you are a villager, you know you are a villager, and a thought of "I am at risk of being killed today" does not even enter your head, because your job is to find wolves, not preserve yourself.

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Good Morning!

I think Kruze is the way to go today.

I'm going to spend some time looking at him, atak and Felix.

It feels like Kruze has been in anti-spew mode for days.

I am here for a bit. Kruze has been frustrating, for the obvious reasons. Problem is I know I've seen him be this frustrating when he's village, but maybe the contest thing that ykw mentioned helps.


ykw, I don't recall there being consensus about the contest. (there may well have been but I don't remember and may no have read it.) It is obvious that he participated and given that the criteria were basically "make the mods laugh", kruze may have won. What do we know about what was won there? (that's to anyone)

No, I don't agree. And I know because I've had the same thoughts, this very game. As I contemplated a nasty schedule the past few days I have found myself wondering how important it was to rearrange stuff in order to spend a little time here itt, and thinking "they don't seem to have me on the block yet, so tomorrow will be ok too." My job is find wolves, yes, but especially on e.g., the crossfox day when it seems abundantly clear that finding wolves could happen the following day too, I definitely considered this in my posting. (I have still posted about as much as I reasonably could, and though everyone seems to believe I'm low content, I am trying to do what I can. So I'm not saying his behavior is the same as mine; I'm saying that this isn't necessarily a wolf thought.)


I still suspect he's a wolf, ftr, just saying thsi analysis doesn't prove it.

hey guys im here. doing some reading for now and will share some thoughts. going out to lunch in a bit so will be afk some but will be around for the afternoon

hopefully felix can post today?

kruze didn't win. He may have came in second.

jdalla claimed he won and the claim was never countered.

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I have been trying to figure felix out because he seems at times to have already decided I'm a wolf, so that's what I notice most about him. I've gone partnway back and am feeling better about much of his stuff, as ghe progressions seem villagery to me. But I did notice this oddity:
This is about me, of course, and my claiming vanilla early on the day when it appeared the wolf vig may have been blocked. (Possible even if they'd targeted tokyo, as tey wouldn't know whether it failed.) Felix discounts the value of my allowing for the possibility of a counterclaim, saying that if cross/64/kruze are wolves with me I wouldn't have anyone useful to counterclaim against.


But there's someone he forgot: Himself. Could felix have plausibly considered himself so clear that wolf-me would completely discount the possibility of countering a blocker claim from him? Maybe I've misread the sense of the thread (entirely possible) but I don't think so. Felix seems first to be assuming that he has three known wolves in order to discount something from me, which isn't a totally wolfy thing to do because villagers tunnel all the time and in any case those three sure look(ed) to be wolves, but surely he'd consider a claim against himself to be at least an interesting possibility to consider. Unless he knew it were impossible.
This isn't nearly as important, but it's an example of the frustrating tunneling I've seen. I am not confused, I am doing a decent job of being confused — that's propaganda.


The proof for me being a lock wolf is, as far as I can tell, merely that I haven't done much for the village. Maybe for felix that's lock-wolf material but it's ungood reasoning.


As I said above, a lot of what I see seems villagery but this stuff is why I'm having trouble being objective.

So what's this about consensus being that second place went to a wolf if there was a second place? Kruze was sort of funny so that would be possible; did we see an unexplained event?

We had three clear villagers and have been treating three others (aaron, jonny, and nich) as almost clear, letting the 6 of them control the last 3 days. Wolves barely even tried the last three days. With no power roles (everyone ran out of shots), they seemed to care more about getting rid of the actually cleared villagers then having two of their brethren surviving. If that meant accepting that aaron, jonny, and nich are cleared, then so be it.

It's now 5 v 3. From a pure logic perspective, is it possible that all 3 are villagers? Is it one or two of them that are wolves? If it's three, can we even win?

Crap, I think everyone has a good shot at being a wolf (except me, of course).

i dont think i follow on the first statement, can you expand

if the 2nd statement is true do you mind expanding on why everyone has a good shot at being a wolf person by person

Gus, I don't understand when you say "they seemed to care more about getting rid of the actually cleared villagers then having two of their brethren surviving." I agree that nobody seems to have defended the past to wolves to be expunged, but they'd have been pretty hard to defend.


(I've also noted that it's weird that there was no pushback and that that suggests that they think they have a path to victory and are just trying not to upset the apple cart for now, but I think you're saying something different. But are you?)

I have to work for a while but will be able to check in later.

It was 7 to 5. The two cleareds basically teamed with you and aaron and nich and agreed to get cross and 64. As atak said, the wolves think they have a path to victory and were perfectly fine to allow that to happen.

Does that happen if all of aaron, jonny, nich are villagers? I don't know, and have to think it through. It's possible that they all are. But is it likely?

The 2nd statement was from a logic, game state analysis perspective, not a read perspective. I have to do a re-read.

That's basically what I meant. The wolves didn't care about the last three days, so didn't try. Why? I don't know. And that's worrisome.

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Dead thread is dead

just got back from lunch. sorry. AK do you want to talk?