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'07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters '07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters

07-01-2020 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
My recollection of aao is that I never like his posts much, because he's wrong a lot. (I am a sucker for things I agree with.) As a villager — I don't remember his wolf game.


This game the tone feels the same. But he hasn't been as wrong as I remember him, so yeah, maybe.
Hasn't been as wrong screams tmi.

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He hasn't said as many facially ridiculous things as I remember being normal for him. In fact I don't remember anything facially ridiculous. Now a lot of that was game mechanics in mishmashes so not relevant here, but what I remember is forehead-slappingly ridiculous stuff. Nothing like that... but nothing that would be forehead-slappingly ridiculous except I agree with it, either. So I'm agreeing that thsi doesn't look good, just because it isn't what he normally does.


By that logic, he and shortline are the best candidates. With shortline it's not that he's wrong a lot, obviously, it's that he's incredibly opinionated. And now he has... um, opinions? I don't really remember.
When called out on it this is is explanation.

Aside if you ask Shorty I think he'll say he is wrong a lot day 1, but his reputation is that he is always right on.

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I can't prove it but I feel it. I find myself liking everything he posts. I've admitted I'm a sucker for that but I don't remember that happening when he wolfs.
Call Sun Tzu a villager

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Originally Posted by atakdog
Seems more likely her. As you said, she accused you of low posting but I think you've posted a moderate amount. (I didn't count.) It is the sort of thing I could imagine y'all concocting in wolfchat, a possibility for which I allowed, but I'm not calling you a wolf.
soft push MrsjohnnyD

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This is a terrible post


1. That's not all she said. She said she would expect one thing and he was doing something else.


2. "That being said, she could be a wolf, thus I'm voting the way she said to." wtf
Points out a bad post by Jdalla

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Originally Posted by atakdog
I still offer to the thread that losing crossfox would not be much harm even if it's wrong, and more importantly, her dropping in close to night but not being here as it really approaches suggests that she's fine with how things are. If she's a villager I would think she's at least offer a little something; a wolf would know she's not in real danger. (that would suggest also that she's comfortable with the aa0 wagon.)
Good post about voting Crossnerd, if there was a chance to CFD CN day 1 this would be very villagery now that we know her role.

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Four of the aa0 voters have shown no interest in the thread. THta is a bad wagon, even if they're villagers.


Not excited about voting luckbox but I will if I have to.
Will go Luckbox

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I have made my position clear, and you need to relax. Late stuff happens.
Told to get on wagon by aao

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Sadly, no read. I had him as a villager yesterday, so lol me. I'd rather vote for someone who is either wolfy or useless; dustin is, to me, neither.
Doesn't want to go Dustin now.

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Luckbox
Goes Luckbox when aao claims right at end of day. he gets some heat for this when his previous post which I left out asked for votes on Jdalla and he was in fact voting Jdalla so this final vote is really weird.

I suck at isoing.
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07-01-2020 , 01:30 PM
i agree, the luckbox vote is really weird. dont really know how to place it in terms of wolfy/villagery

i also think his posting has been better in spurts but he's good enough to do that as a wolf. im not opposed to 'shooting our shot' and going atak today
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07-01-2020 , 01:32 PM
i find gus's reluctance to clear people wolfy. i think theres ways to be suspicious in a villagery way but it just feels like disconnected from the thread and this tinfoiling feels weird
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07-01-2020 , 01:32 PM
checkin' in

I'm going to ISO everyone. not necessarily post a ton about it all, but at least give everyone a proper look, I'll be around checking/reading new posts if anyone has any questions.

I will say in my defense, I've voted to shun every single wolf who was shunned. (coordi/crossnerd/sixfour). Is that enough to keep me alive? I'm not sure... I'm curious how many others alive still have voted to shun all three shunned wolves?

pre-iso I'm feelin the 3 woofers are:
atakdog
Felix the Cat
YouKnowWho
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07-01-2020 , 01:32 PM
i think the timing of felix's absences have been very coincidentally wolfy
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07-01-2020 , 01:35 PM
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07-01-2020 , 01:37 PM
i think there's a validity to wolves just throwing xnerd/sixfour to us because they think they have a mislynch lined up

i think its more likely that we suspect the wrong person than that we are clearing the wrong people. and thats why i think gus's thinking is wolfier than it may seem at face value. just a matter of perspective
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07-01-2020 , 01:39 PM
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I explained that already. The post misrepresents her post, says she might be a wolf, then votes that way anyway. The misrepresentation is the worst part of it.
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That one post I quoted. Loudest howl I've heard itt. Don't recall the rest of his work but it's enough given what time I have.
The two above posts are responding to wolf crackedquads. Nothing bad in the posts nothing in these responses which should make crackedquads suspicious but:

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atakdog
hmm

Could cracked be setting himself up for some clearance later?
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07-01-2020 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
i find gus's reluctance to clear people wolfy. i think theres ways to be suspicious in a villagery way but it just feels like disconnected from the thread and this tinfoiling feels weird
I agree.
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07-01-2020 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KruZe
checkin' in

I'm going to ISO everyone. not necessarily post a ton about it all, but at least give everyone a proper look, I'll be around checking/reading new posts if anyone has any questions.

I will say in my defense, I've voted to shun every single wolf who was shunned. (coordi/crossnerd/sixfour). Is that enough to keep me alive? I'm not sure... I'm curious how many others alive still have voted to shun all three shunned wolves?

pre-iso I'm feelin the 3 woofers are:
atakdog
Felix the Cat
YouKnowWho
I think I tried to CFD coordi and CN day 1
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07-01-2020 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
just got back from lunch. sorry. AK do you want to talk?
Hi johnny, was reading.
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07-01-2020 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronk56
The two above posts are responding to wolf crackedquads. Nothing bad in the posts nothing in these responses which should make crackedquads suspicious but:



hmm

Could cracked be setting himself up for some clearance later?
that vote felt weird to me too (and you see that i was like hey get on a real wagon)

im really bad at these spew leveling kind of things especially votes. its hard for me to analyze
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07-01-2020 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
i agree, the luckbox vote is really weird. dont really know how to place it in terms of wolfy/villagery

i also think his posting has been better in spurts but he's good enough to do that as a wolf. im not opposed to 'shooting our shot' and going atak today
I think that if we shun someone else other than atak and they reveal as JOAT, it makes atak more likely to be a villager, so I would go Kruze today.
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07-01-2020 , 01:44 PM
Day 7: Automated Votals from #3548 to #3563


Not voting (9): aaronk56 (7), atakdog (7), Felix the Cat (0), gusmahler (4), jonnyd (10), KruZe (1), Nicholasp27 (0), YouKnowWho (1), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 7h15m. Hammer at 5.

<Beta v0.1.8>
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07-01-2020 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronk56
I think that if we shun someone else other than atak and they reveal as JOAT, it makes atak more likely to be a villager, so I would go Kruze today.
i suppose they cant kill us both tonight and agree that JOAT increases his villa odds enough that it's prob worth punting again. i do fear him setting up to be late game wolf and feel like maybe i have a duty to stop it that but maybe thats not my problem.. and i think there are probably wolfier people

its just a shame more people arent being villagery lol
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07-01-2020 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
i agree, the luckbox vote is really weird. dont really know how to place it in terms of wolfy/villagery

i also think his posting has been better in spurts but he's good enough to do that as a wolf. im not opposed to 'shooting our shot' and going atak today
I won't dwell on it unless y'all need me to, but I had pushed the jdalla wagon (I think I started it), but it didn't look like it could go; two more votes came in right after aa0's claim that I hadn't seen, so I was trying to get onto what I thought was the most viable wagon. Apparently I hadn't noticed that a lot of people had gotten off of it, but that was my thinking. I wasn't refreshing every few seconds because by then it appeared that aa0 wasn't actually going to claim, so it didn't seem like a last minute decision would be necessary.


It definitely turned out badly and also could have been avoided if I'd been up to speed on the votes, and I tried to change back but the 25 second thing got me. If it gets me pummeled I understand but it's still wrong.
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07-01-2020 , 01:48 PM
I think the most likely remaining wolf team is:

Kruze
Felix
Atak

but I need some time to decide if they make sense as a team. I'm only considering them as individuals.
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07-01-2020 , 01:50 PM
I had gus a villager from a couple of days ago when it wasn't a thing. I need to look at him closely this afternoon.
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07-01-2020 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
i think there's a validity to wolves just throwing xnerd/sixfour to us because they think they have a mislynch lined up

i think its more likely that we suspect the wrong person than that we are clearing the wrong people. and thats why i think gus's thinking is wolfier than it may seem at face value. just a matter of perspective
At this point all they need is one error. If I were a wolf I'd have given up on cross and sixfour and would have been planning to try to win at f6 and again at f4; some wolves would probably just have f4 (or f3) planned. ALl they need if it's at f3 is one villager who suspects another villager over a wolf who is likely to live, so it can be either a consensus-clear villager who's actually a wolf (in which case I don't think we have a chance), a consensus-wolfy villager (which could be me), or a villager tunneling another villager.


Not sure what that does to the strategy, except that tunneling is bad and revealing everything about one's thinking is probably bad for anyone who isn't consensus-clear.
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07-01-2020 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronk56
I think I tried to CFD coordi and CN day 1
I think that's true. And that could have succeeded, I think, including on he wolf vig.
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07-01-2020 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronk56
I think the most likely remaining wolf team is:

Kruze
Felix
Atak

but I need some time to decide if they make sense as a team. I'm only considering them as individuals.
so I have you as a villa

and we both have felix/atak as woofs

may I suggest leaving me the f alone until those two are dead? Only feel like I need to say this because you called for my death yesterday as I had my raptor claws around the neck of sixfour
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07-01-2020 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronk56
I think the most likely remaining wolf team is:

Kruze
Felix
Atak

but I need some time to decide if they make sense as a team. I'm only considering them as individuals.
When you look, I think you'll see that Felix's statements about me have been weird. I quoted a couple but if you watch the flow, I keep moving around including spending some time as lock wolf for very little reason. I doubt this should look like wolf/wolf to you, particularly since there's been no point when I've been considered even moderately clear and I could have excommunicated. I guess you can figure it's for bussing/clearing, but my guess is that's not how it reads from the outside. (I have admitted to being biased about and bothered by the whole thing.)


Kruze has said so little of substance that who knows.


Gotta go again now. Will be back.
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07-01-2020 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
When you look, I think you'll see that Felix's statements about me have been weird. I quoted a couple but if you watch the flow, I keep moving around including spending some time as lock wolf for very little reason. I doubt this should look like wolf/wolf to you, particularly since there's been no point when I've been considered even moderately clear and I could have excommunicated. I guess you can figure it's for bussing/clearing, but my guess is that's not how it reads from the outside. (I have admitted to being biased about and bothered by the whole thing.)


Kruze has said so little of substance that who knows.


Gotta go again now. Will be back.
why didn't you vote crossnerd the day she was voted out? but did on day 2?
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07-01-2020 , 02:07 PM
there was like a wolf led mini gus wagon on d2? i think.. maybe thats clearing but maybe its bussing idk
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07-01-2020 , 02:09 PM
so like is sixfour pushing gus because he wants to win yesterday? or because if he's right about gus then its clearing for him?

sixfour prob knew he wasnt going to be the endgame wolf so maybe its spew
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