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06-26-2020 , 01:57 PM

#2276

VoraciousMother

adept

Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 957

Day 3: Automated Votals from #2245 to #2275

coordi (4): biggerboat (41), dmk (6), riverfish1 (8), jonnyd (10)
Crossnerd (2): YouKnowWho (8), wdcbooks (15)
Kukraprout (1): Kukraprout (37)
YouKnowWho (1): gusmahler (3)
dmk (1): coordi (3)
riverfish1 (1): Tokyo!! (12)
Not voting (9): aaronk56 (9), atakdog (0), crackedquads (0), Crossnerd (0), Felix the Cat (0), KruZe (0), Nicholasp27 (8), sixfour (1), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 7h2m. Hammer at 10.

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06-26-2020 , 01:58 PM

#2277

VoraciousMother

adept

Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 957

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Originally Posted by Kukraprout

If we wagon a wolf he might claim seer. Then if we move to another he might claim blocker. I'm not sure how we should handle that scenario. Counterclaims? Move to a third one? What if he claims too?

(gusmahler because event)

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Originally Posted by jonnyd

well that was an unfortunate xpost on my part. i knew i shouldnt have checked the thread in line at UPS

jonnyd

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Originally Posted by Kukraprout

This his the closest thing to a seer hint from sun that I found. Also if you read his posts it's obvious that Luckbox was his shot.

(kukraprout because event)

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Originally Posted by Kukraprout

Wolves are probably in wolf chat trying to figure out if there is a way they lose, not really in the mood to make much effort. I'm giving gus village points just for posting.

(thank you for the event btw books)

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Originally Posted by jonnyd

im still rereading/doing some chores but this is pretty much my exact list, i'd prob put xnerd instead of sixfour but there are 7 wolves so maybe both are

i think coordi should be a wagon because i think hes a wolf but seeing as how wrong ive been all game i dont want to force someone through just to resolve things.. i think we should try to pick who we think its highest likelihood wolf at this point in the game

oh right i guess i have to vote someone every post coordi

THE FIGHT RAGES ON!!!

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06-26-2020 , 02:01 PM

#2278

riverfish1

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Originally Posted by wdcbooks

Attention

I don’t see any path to village winning unless we follow our only clear villager. If we all follow our own instincts then the wolves are free to pile on anyone who is wrong. Nich, I trust you see the logic in this and I guarantee that if it was someone else I would be following their lead.

So here is the plan:

I will consult with our departed players by re-reading their contributions and I especially want to be on the same page as Kukra. I will recommend a vote by 5:00. If that person wants to claim they should do so by 7:30. If we need to switch because on an unclear claim then we will have time. I do not recommend we make it clear who the backup banishment shuold be as that will influence the wolves’ claiming decisions.

Does anyone object to this plan?

it's not bad other than you convinced me to vote shorty so I no longer fully trust your judgement.

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06-26-2020 , 02:04 PM

#2279

wdcbooks

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Originally Posted by riverfish1

it's not bad other than you convinced me to vote shorty so I no longer fully trust your judgement.

Yeah I get it, but there is no way to win if we all go in different directions.

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06-26-2020 , 02:05 PM

#2280

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 85,718

I'm good with books' plan

I would like to clear up coordi wagon, but crossnerd is a good candidate as well.

But whatever books decides, given how close we are to must vote wolf, at least we know it's a villager and not a wolf driving it

tomorrow may be even more must vote wolf where they could pile on and majority so it may be even more important to do so with a cleared villager tomorrow

today i don't think they can pile on obviously to any of the village votes because sk would shoot one and they may not get their 50/50 vig, so they will probably be more careful today

we should all try to give our reads and who we want gone to books before his time so he can take our thoughts into consideration. remember, you have more info than shorty/dustin did when they made their reads, so trust yourself as well.

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06-26-2020 , 02:19 PM

#2281

biggerboat

you're gonna need one

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 49,842

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Originally Posted by Tokyo!!

you know keeping coordi alive if he is the wolf vig would justify a couple other of the late shortline votes (e.g., sixfour, riverfish)

i had this same thought. coordi would have been an easy wolf-bus candidate here but it sure seemed like they really wanted him alive.

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06-26-2020 , 02:22 PM

#2282

biggerboat

you're gonna need one

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 49,842

I'm going along with books as long as he picks the right person.

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06-26-2020 , 02:33 PM

#2283

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 75,520

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Originally Posted by Tokyo!!

you know keeping coordi alive if he is the wolf vig would justify a couple other of the late shortline votes (e.g., sixfour, riverfish)

Was I even awake when coordi was getting traction either time?

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06-26-2020 , 02:39 PM

#2284

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 75,520

books' plan seems fine as well fwiw

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06-26-2020 , 02:42 PM

#2285

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 85,718

shortline!V! - 7: jdalla!V!, dmk, Tokyo, books!V!, crackedquads, sixfour, riverfish
coordi - 7: Felix, shortline!V!, aaron, biggerboat, mrsd!V!, nich!V!, jonnyd
luckbox!V! - 5: Sun!V!, Kukra, Kruze, coordi, gus

so 5 mins until night and it's tied with luckbox just behind

shorty is villa with 2 villa and 5 unknowns
coordi is unknown with 3 villa and 4 unknowns
luckbox is villa with 1 villa and 4 unknowns

if we assume coordi is wolf, then most of the wolves will be on shorty/luck

4 people were on random 1-person votes: atak, crossnerd, luckbox!V!, youknowwho

i'd assume 1 on random, 0-1 on coordi, coordi, 2-3 on shorty, 1-2 on luckbox

felix moves from coordi to shorty for no rand
shorty votes himself

now it's 9-5-5

coordi goes shorty from luckbox to make it 10-5-4
luckbox goes from random jonny vote to coordi to make it 10-6-4

if coordi is villa, then wolves didn't care as we had 3 villa wagons so they could do whatever

if coordi is wolf, then:
dmk, tokyo, crackedquads, sixfour, river contains 2-3 wolves
kukra, kruze, coordi!w!, gus contains 1-2
atak, crossnerd, youknowwho contains 0-1
felix, aaron, bigger, jonny contains 0-1

if he's wolf, we'll look back earlier to see how the wagons formed more to narrow down the lists

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06-26-2020 , 02:52 PM

#2286

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 75,520

nich, why don't you just assume that coordi is wolf as if he's not wolf the game's probably going to be over

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06-26-2020 , 02:53 PM

#2287

riverfish1

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Originally Posted by wdcbooks

Yeah I get it, but there is no way to win if we all go in different directions.

fair. I'll vote with the village but I may try to sway the village if I think you're way off. I'm anchoring to shortline's reasons combined with the votes on Shorty/Dustin. Though Nich's logic is good (and also ends up lining well with what I'm seeing from my anchoring).

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Originally Posted by biggerboat

I'm going along with books as long as he picks the right person.

This is just such a bad post.

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06-26-2020 , 02:58 PM

#2288

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 85,718

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Originally Posted by sixfour

nich, why don't you just assume that coordi is wolf as if he's not wolf the game's probably going to be over

Pretty sure that’s what I did if you read my post

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06-26-2020 , 03:01 PM

#2289

VoraciousMother

adept

Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 957

Day 3: Automated Votals from #2276 to #2288

coordi (4): biggerboat (43), dmk (6), riverfish1 (10), jonnyd (10)
Crossnerd (2): YouKnowWho (8), wdcbooks (16)
Kukraprout (1): Kukraprout (37)
YouKnowWho (1): gusmahler (3)
dmk (1): coordi (3)
riverfish1 (1): Tokyo!! (12)
Not voting (9): aaronk56 (9), atakdog (0), crackedquads (0), Crossnerd (0), Felix the Cat (0), KruZe (0), Nicholasp27 (11), sixfour (4), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 5h58m. Hammer at 10.

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06-26-2020 , 03:29 PM

#2290

Tokyo!!

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Guys remember when crossnerd said she just was too busy yesterday but had a ton of time to post today. Pepperidge farm remembers.

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06-26-2020 , 03:30 PM

#2291

jonnyd

hey guys

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,320

I see the value in voting as a bloc so I’m down to just sheep books

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06-26-2020 , 03:31 PM

#2292

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

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06-26-2020 , 03:31 PM

#2293

Tokyo!!

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crackedquads I actually think this should prolly be next after coordi. Big posts not many votes = wolf

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06-26-2020 , 03:33 PM

#2294

jonnyd

hey guys

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,320

Ah crap I messed up

(jonnyd)

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06-26-2020 , 03:38 PM

#2295

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 75,520

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Originally Posted by Tokyo!!

crackedquads I actually think this should prolly be next after coordi. Big posts not many votes = wolf

don't hate this. was thinking this as a possibility on day 1, day 2 i don't recall quite so much but certainly can't see anything that was screaming villager, think it's got to be solidly >rand that this works

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06-26-2020 , 03:38 PM

#2296

Crossnerd

quite smart as well

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 41,462

Hey guys, I’m here. Quoting these for myself, brb.

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Originally Posted by VoraciousMother

Day 1: Automated Votals from #1308 to #1321

aao (8): Luckbox Inc (20), jonnyd (13), riverfish1 (0), BobOjedaFan (0), sixfour (0), Crossnerd (0), crackedquads (11), JDalla (6)
JDalla (7): coordi (6), Sun Tzu (11), Nicholasp27 (3), traz (15), wdcbooks (5), aao (10), aaronk56 (7)
atakdog (3): Kukraprout (0), dmk (2), mrs. jonnyd (7)
Luckbox Inc (2): Birdman10687 (14), atakdog (15)
coordi (1): biggerboat (0)
crackedquads (1): shortline99 (0)
traz (1): KruZe (0)
dmk (1): Tokyo!! (0)
KruZe (1): YouKnowWho (1)
Not voting (3): Felix The Cat (0), gusmahler (0), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in -1h57m.

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Originally Posted by VoraciousMother

Day 2: Automated Votals from #2078 to #2084

shortline99 (10): JDalla (34), dmk (43), Tokyo!! (54), wdcbooks (25), crackedquads (11), sixfour (4), riverfish1 (17), Felix the Cat (31), shortline99 (103), coordi (17)
coordi (6): aaronk56 (24), biggerboat (8), mrs. jonnyd (24), Nicholasp27 (5), jonnyd (37), Luckbox Inc (135)
Luckbox Inc (4): Sun Tzu (30), Kukraprout (53), KruZe (10), gusmahler (21)
Crossnerd (1): atakdog (4)
gusmahler (1): Crossnerd (3)
KruZe (1): YouKnowWho (17)
Not voting (1): UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in -1h57m. Hammer at 12.

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06-26-2020 , 03:40 PM

#2297

wdcbooks

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Originally Posted by shortline99

i would personally CFD any of:

dmk
coordi
sixfour
crackedquads

from my privileged position of knowing i'm a villager, it's obvious most of the wolves have gotten away with completely fading into the background today.

possible backgrounded wolves (people who will kick into active roles later game to sweep the leg) include:

Tokyo
YouKnowWho
Sun
Nich
Kukra

if neither Dustin or I is a wolf then wolves have basically had a free day to do nothing. but i think that actually might give us some info - we can look at the people who hung back when they should have been expressing more opinions and suspicion. those five names should have been the ones receiving pressure today.

the problem is we really should try to avoid lynching a villager today and it's starting to look very unlikely. the 24 hr chat is really troubling for that reason. tomorrow wolves will be dominant in thread unless vig and SK start to pull through.

if i end up the lynch for sure today i will be giving my best wolf reads to the SK so they can hopefully balance things out, because that's our best shot left

I am not sold on DMK / lean village, but I like the other three of Shorty’s wolves.