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'07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters '07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters

06-30-2020 , 02:26 PM
I'm not sure I should give that much weight to the gus wagon, it's possible the wolves thought shortline was a done deal and went for no-consequence bussing.
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06-30-2020 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
I'm not sure I should give that much weight to the gus wagon, it's possible the wolves thought shortline was a done deal and went for no-consequence bussing.

Yea and maybe it’s bc gus has been underwhelming lately that I don’t want to give it much credit bc a few flipped wolves voted him and he never really threatened the top wagons.. even if numerically he was only 2/3 away from the top
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06-30-2020 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
EOD2 is an interesting reread.

Aaron looks good for voting coordi and telling river to vote coordi too.

Gus looks good for getting pushed by crossnerd and coordi.

Nich looks good for helping the coordi wagon catch up to shortline.

Felix looks bad for switching from coordi to shortline after coordi took off (yes, this has been touched before).

Sixfour voted shortline very early and the coordi wagon didnt exist yet so meh.

sixfours vote on shortline was pretty bad even shorty said as much (although he was basically calling most people pushing him a wolf) and he’s euro so he wasn’t around eod
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06-30-2020 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronk56
I only meant to quote sixfour's post.

I had been spending time re-reading johnnyd (yes he's seems clear because he is posting a lot and doing work but I figured might as well take a look at him) and Felix who has probably jumped ahead of atakdog as a possible wolf.

I think it’s good to try to be confident in non mech clear people and I’m glad someone is reading my posts that I spent all weekend making lol

Do you agree with me that we had similar thought processes on d2? Feel like I said that a few days ago.. but that is part of why I was confident in my villa read on you
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06-30-2020 , 02:54 PM
Anyone has a compelilng argument why two live players can never be w/w, or can never be w/v?

I'm making a thing.
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06-30-2020 , 02:57 PM
my power has returned now lets seeeeeeeeeee
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06-30-2020 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
Anyone has a compelilng argument why two live players can never be w/w, or can never be w/v?

I'm making a thing.

I have a slight tinfoil on ykw/kruze w/w but maybe it’s more off the rails than I think

Otherwise I don’t think I have much in the way of that mostly bc there’s been so little posting
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06-30-2020 , 03:01 PM
Kukra how long do you think you’ll be around until. Just in case you want to talk or I have questions
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06-30-2020 , 03:06 PM
I'll be around for about 3 hours.
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06-30-2020 , 03:07 PM
Day 6: Automated Votals from #3396 to #3409


Not voting (11): aaronk56 (3), atakdog (0), Felix the Cat (0), gusmahler (7), jonnyd (17), KruZe (3), Kukraprout (16), Nicholasp27 (8), sixfour (5), YouKnowWho (2), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 5h52m. Hammer at 6.

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06-30-2020 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
sixfour: is there anyone you would never vote in this game?
you and jonny more or less, everyone else seems some degree of viable
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06-30-2020 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
you and jonny more or less, everyone else seems some degree of viable
can you give some sort of ranking, from the top of your head?
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06-30-2020 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
Yea and maybe it’s bc gus has been underwhelming lately that I don’t want to give it much credit bc a few flipped wolves voted him and he never really threatened the top wagons.. even if numerically he was only 2/3 away from the top
It's fine and all to consider me "underwhelming." But the last two shuns were made clear in the thread on Saturday morning, so there was absolutely nothing to do.

In fact, the people who hopped into the thread and tried to look busy but actually did nothing (e.g., Atak yesterday, Kruze on Saturday night/Sunday morning) are a lot more suspicious to me. Because those are the ones who appear to be contributing if you sort by post count. But then you realize they didn't contribute either.
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06-30-2020 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
Anyone has a compelilng argument why two live players can never be w/w, or can never be w/v?

I'm making a thing.
The reason I was asking is because I just made a small program: I feed it 8 player names (excluded me and jonny), some never w/w pairs and some never w/v pairs and it gives me the possible wolf teams.

Testing with 6 "never w/v" and 2 "never w/w" conditions I get only 9 possible wolf teams, a wolf who is in all of them, and a villager who is in none.

Now I just need accurate input... I've got two "never w/v" I'm reasonably confident in. 40 possible teams remain.
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06-30-2020 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
It's fine and all to consider me "underwhelming." But the last two shuns were made clear in the thread on Saturday morning, so there was absolutely nothing to do.

In fact, the people who hopped into the thread and tried to look busy but actually did nothing (e.g., Atak yesterday, Kruze on Saturday night/Sunday morning) are a lot more suspicious to me. Because those are the ones who appear to be contributing if you sort by post count. But then you realize they didn't contribute either.
there's plenty to do, the lynch being decided doesnt make any of our decisions easier down the line but posting and sharing thoughts and clearing yourself does. if you dont see a path towards clearing yourself thats fine but popping in with a daily reads list (which frankly you havent even done that) isnt going to win us this game.

im not saying we should sort by post count but we're going to get to an f6 of like

atak
felix
gus
kruze
nich
youknowwho

and there will be like what 30 posts that day? and how are you going to deduce who is a wolf and who isnt when you havent interacted with these people directly? and you'll have how many posts from each person to go on by the time we get there? like 15? how will you be able to deduce what they actually thought during these days

i dont even disagree that youre less suspicious than others but dont act like there's nothing to do
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06-30-2020 , 03:37 PM
for instance gus,

what is your take on your mini d2 wagon and people who voted you. do you think any are wolfier than others?
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06-30-2020 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
can you give some sort of ranking, from the top of your head?
kukra
jonny
nich/kruze
aaron/ykw
atak/felix
gus

kruze i lean higher as i don't think that all that raptor stuff is easily faked. nich and ykw are probably interchangeable, i'm leaning nich a bit higher as his postings have seemed a bit more useful, although as he's perfectly capable of doing that as a wofl, ykw i feel less opinionated on so probably lean more on the wolf side of rand by default
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06-30-2020 , 03:39 PM
maybe we should lynch atakdog today and maybe im just saying this so he'll post but maybe not
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06-30-2020 , 03:41 PM
It turned out that my real role power was the ability to get atakdog to post for one day, but I used it already.
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06-30-2020 , 03:42 PM
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i honestly think the wolves are just frozen atm and don't know what to do

if there's an overall consensus that 4 people need to be voted out and they're all wolves, they'll each feel obligated to list them as well and (possibly) need to come up w/ some weird reasons on why they switched on their reads, etc. or, you just don't post and talk about something else? or just say "yeah, obv these are wolves" and move on?
like do some reflection gus, dont you think this describes you (and a few others, to be fair)
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06-30-2020 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
popping in with a daily reads list (which frankly you havent even done that)
I've done that each of the last 3 days. 3353, 3106, and 2877. Day before, I posted a big analysis of bigger's peeks (2657). So I haven't just been coasting.

Some people are more on the game state analysis side of the game. It appears that Nich and I lean that direction (Nich more than me). Other people (e.g., Luckbox) spam the thread and try to force people into interactions. Since I am closer to Nich than Luckbox on the interaction spectrum, you shouldn't read too much in my lack of interaction. Especially since IRL, I'm fairly busy.
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06-30-2020 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
I've done that each of the last 3 days. 3353, 3106, and 2877. Day before, I posted a big analysis of bigger's peeks (2657). So I haven't just been coasting.

Some people are more on the game state analysis side of the game. It appears that Nich and I lean that direction (Nich more than me). Other people (e.g., Luckbox) spam the thread and try to force people into interactions. Since I am closer to Nich than Luckbox on the interaction spectrum, you shouldn't read too much in my lack of interaction. Especially since IRL, I'm fairly busy.
i just feel like i should clarify that its not personal and that this game is weird in that voting other than d1/d2 is not very valuable so much of what we have to go off is tone so im going to pressure people like you to post and you should know that i've done the same to others already
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06-30-2020 , 03:50 PM
i think my wolf team is solidifying
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06-30-2020 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
It turned out that my real role power was the ability to get atakdog to post for one day, but I used it already.
I'll give you a power today, you have my vote (as long as it isn't for me) so you are now a doublevoter.

I'm thinking we vote Sixfour or Gus today.


How many wolves left?
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06-30-2020 , 04:06 PM
i forgot about atakdog, need to ISO him to know for sure, but I don't really ever think I had a villa read on him, others seemed to be pushing him a lot so I was always kinda just seeing where that went
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