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'07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters '07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters

06-29-2020 , 04:41 PM
them shooting tokyo isnt that crazy of a scenario hmm. and he's immune to wolf NK which im assuming means all
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06-29-2020 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
i suppose atak knows he cant win a thunderdome claim vs claim so he decided to take some sort of weird route
Probably not against kukra, but if I were the vig and knew I'd been blocked, it would be dumb to disclaim any possibility of a counterclaim before I even knew who the blocker was.


I am trying to figure it out. Something is very weird.
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06-29-2020 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
I thought kukra was clear, but I guess I was confused. Was just assuming he is village because he's uncountered.


Another possibility, maybe, is that the wolf vig targeted tokyo Friday night. I can't tell from the roleset writeups whether he would have left the game victorious after a third kill, if he was also targeted for death. Seems unlikely.
hes seer hunt cleared and the jailkeep thing on books and then this claim

bigger could have peeked coordi wolf iirc
could be that he's lying about the jailkeep after the fact that there was only 1 kill and that wolf vig randed miss on books
and then this is just to lock up the game

idk i feel like we're not lynching you today anyway but maybe im wrong

maybe nonzero was a stretch
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06-29-2020 , 04:44 PM
nich i need your help on these mechanics if kukra can be a wolf. idk maybe this is a waste of time
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06-29-2020 , 04:48 PM
Lol I hadn't noticed that the SK is immune to wolf nightkills. It seems a pretty small needle to thread, but that means the only explanation I have is that the wolf vig targeted Tokyo, that fialed because he's immune (but would have succeeded otherwise), and then had his/her kill fail last night because of the rand.
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06-29-2020 , 04:48 PM
i suppose at this point the only way any of this is true is if xnerd is RB? has everyone else posted
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06-29-2020 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
nich i need your help on these mechanics if kukra can be a wolf. idk maybe this is a waste of time
If kukra is a wolf, the actual roleblocker knows it.
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06-29-2020 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
Maybe atakdog makes a binkle-esque effort today and becomes lock clear, leads the village to victory and we can all laugh about our bad reads later.
weird to say this about someone u blocked, no?

where is everyone lol
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06-29-2020 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
If kukra is a wolf, the actual roleblocker knows it.
yeah idk why a wolf would out at ML either
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06-29-2020 , 04:53 PM
Yall seriously entertaining a possibility of Kukra being a wolf?

Cmon now. Atak I can understand, but Johny whatcha doin man.
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06-29-2020 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
i suppose at this point the only way any of this is true is if xnerd is RB? has everyone else posted
I think I would find my tokyo-kill scenario more likely than kukra wolf, crossfox village roleblocker, and the latter not bothering to mention it today. (That last part I buy, not the rest.)


iirc bigger used the same language for two of the apparent peeks, I think coordi and dmk, and different language for kukra. But when a seer says someone is lock clear never voting ever, which I think it was, that's usually worth following. (Duh.) (Once upon a time seers used to do that ****, but I think it stopped long, long ago.)
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06-29-2020 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
Yall seriously entertaining a possibility of Kukra being a wolf?

Cmon now. Atak I can understand, but Johny whatcha doin man.
i have a problem
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06-29-2020 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
weird to say this about someone u blocked, no?

where is everyone lol
Oh right. Kukra, why did you imply I might clear myself if you had evidence that you believed established that I had to be a power wolf?


And to YKW: No, not really. I just know something's wrong.
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06-29-2020 , 04:56 PM
Kukra is always roleblocker

Only way atak isn’t a wolf is the tokyo wolf kill scenario

I hope to be at pc within the next hour, but def within 2
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06-29-2020 , 04:58 PM
Wolf roleblocker is dead, right?
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06-29-2020 , 05:03 PM
i dont think i realized that the claim could be true and kukra could be a villager so thats where i was getting tripped up
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06-29-2020 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
Wolf roleblocker is dead, right?
oh.

no.
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06-29-2020 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
Oh right. Kukra, why did you imply I might clear myself if you had evidence that you believed established that I had to be a power wolf?


And to YKW: No, not really. I just know something's wrong.
In my mind, wolves knew the blocker was about to claim and out their vig. They were probably wondering if one should claim blocker. They wouldnt do it knowing they were claiming against because I'm as clear as can be.

So I entered the thread all subtle like "HI I'M NOT THE GUY WHO KNOWS ATAK IS THE WOLF VIG".
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06-29-2020 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
In my mind, wolves knew the blocker was about to claim and out their vig. They were probably wondering if one should claim blocker. They wouldnt do it knowing they were claiming against because I'm as clear as can be.

So I entered the thread all subtle like "HI I'M NOT THE GUY WHO KNOWS ATAK IS THE WOLF VIG".

I buy this bc I think I’d do the same
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06-29-2020 , 05:08 PM
Does it mean anything that Aaron posted 10 minutes after Kukra’s claim to bring up the two nights in a row issue? I know I am a villager and it would never have crossed my mind. This type of mechanics might have been discussed in wolf chat.
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06-29-2020 , 05:13 PM
Its already after midnight here again, I wont hold on much longer, gotta vote in case I crash. And again I am at a similar situation like yestersay - i dont understand this atak situation and its implications and its making me uncomfortable, i need time to process it. I wanna go crossnerd or kruze, who to me are guaranteed wolfs since literaly forever, and somehow they are both still in this damn game.
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06-29-2020 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wdcbooks
Does it mean anything that Aaron posted 10 minutes after Kukra’s claim to bring up the two nights in a row issue? I know I am a villager and it would never have crossed my mind. This type of mechanics might have been discussed in wolf chat.

For someone who has been pretty derpy (and I’ve been semi clearing him for it) it did seem out of place
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06-29-2020 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
Its already after midnight here again, I wont hold on much longer, gotta vote in case I crash. And again I am at a similar situation like yestersay - i dont understand this atak situation and its implications and its making me uncomfortable, i need time to process it. I wanna go crossnerd or kruze, who to me are guaranteed wolfs since literaly forever, and somehow they are both still in this damn game.
Let’s go Crossnerd. I think voting is OK at this point.
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06-29-2020 , 05:16 PM
Atak is being very convincing, but if he is a villager then we are just delaying the inevitable loss. The mechanical path to him being village is very slight and except for today he has been wolfy regardless.
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06-29-2020 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
In my mind, wolves knew the blocker was about to claim and out their vig. They were probably wondering if one should claim blocker. They wouldnt do it knowing they were claiming against because I'm as clear as can be.

So I entered the thread all subtle like "HI I'M NOT THE GUY WHO KNOWS ATAK IS THE WOLF VIG".
But the only one who would make sense to claim blocker is the vig who got blocked, right? A different wolf claiming might buy a day, but that outs a second wolf in addition to the already-outed vig, which would be really dumb at mustlynch. On the other hand if I were a blocked vig I would know I needed to claim blocker; given that I didn't know who blocked me, I'd probably just wait around and see if anyone claimed, then counter and say I'd been afk. I would think that if you'd (in your mind) absolutely caught the wolf vig you'd announce it right up front, to make a counterclaim awkward. (Seriously, you were worried that I could out-claim you?)


Just doesn't make sense. But I get that it's not wolfy-nonsense, it just doesn't scan.
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