Yeah you probably die first and I dont like it.

I may or may not have completely changed my mind on atak in just one page, after calling him a wolf for 4 days and confirming it through game mechanics.

This feels line shortline all over again.

I am really starting to think Atak may be villa. I need to explain why in case I am killed.

It is not only plausible that the wolves went after Tokyo, it is probable. Iwould put him at the top of a list of best villagers I have ever played with and it was immediately clear he was going to be a pain in the ass if left alive.

I have been in many situations where I thought someone was a wolf and then things changed and I was reluctant to change my mind because I didn’t want to be owned. I did that this game with Luckbox (not with Shorty, I thought he was a wolf to the end). So if I decide the mechanics are not convincing I look at Atakdog’s choices today.

If he is a wolf then first, he doesn’t choose the obvious path of counterclaim. What I would have expected is that he just gives up. He has been on the block for ages and there are a bunch more teammates. Why not just go into anti-spew? He may be amazing at this, but i am starting to think the only way his reaction makes sense is if he is a villager. Is that insane?

I promise not to yell at anyone in postgame no matter what you choose. I think with sixfour and crossnerd we can at least buy some time.

Wasn't it one of you who warned us yesterday (or 2 days ago?) of atak swooping in to claim villa captaincy? (it could have been dmk, I just remember a clear villa saying it)

He hasn't even claimed villa captaincy, but we should keep in mind he's entirely capable of posting well for a day or two as a wolf at must-shun.

IMO he's not even posting well, go re-skim his posts since the RB claim. Beyond not literally claiming wolf and doing a decent job of being confused about mechanics he's adding almost no information to the thread. As villa I'd think he'd want to find and push the wolf team - if only for pride's sake.

like yeah, I know this wolf team is setting world records for low effort wolfing, but writing a few hundred words about mechanics is entirely within... basically everyone's wolf range, honestly, and atak's in particular.

Atak Isn’t really captaining tho

Idk maybe he saw binkles blueprint on how to win this villa over and is following it but idk

Idk

[b]crossnerd

Yeah, then I change my vote, they weren't locked.

Useless phone

crossnerd and hopefully we're back tomorrow

Day 5: Automated Votals from #3238 to #3261

Crossnerd (4): aaronk56 (15), YouKnowWho (10), Kukraprout (39), sixfour (5)
Not voting (9): atakdog (21), Crossnerd (0), Felix the Cat (4), gusmahler (2), jonnyd (40), KruZe (3), Nicholasp27 (11), wdcbooks (16), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 2h12m. Hammer at 7.

Vote history:

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Books: I have no idea if tokyo makes sense as a n1 spk, I dont know him. We should check if he makes sense as a seer hunt kill. He may have looked like he peeked quads wolf. Maybe he gives us a seer-hunt cleared villager. See where that takes us.

In the tokyo theory, all the kills are accounted for and my blocks are not damning at all for atak.

Wolves: that's my plan for tomorrow instead you're wondering.

I knew this game would **** up my sleep schedule.

If he's a wolf he knows that most or all of the people he could plausibly counterclaim against are also wolves. The RB possibilities are 2 lock clear villas, jonnyd, me, and whoever's villa out of the remainder. If the remaining villas are like aaronk/YKW/nich I think he can correctly reason that we're ~never voting for his counterclaim. Counterclaiming only really helps if RB is exactly sixfour/Crossnerd/KruZe I think. So preemptively claiming villa makes sense to me as a level if those are 3/3 of his wolf teammates. At this point I think we're really sure that Crossnerd is wolf, sixfour seems almost certainly wolf (say 90%), KruZe is a wolf pretty often, so "atakdog can usefully counterclaim RB" doesn't have very much equity.

Tokyo makes a read post close to when he leaves the thread on Day 1 and has crackedquads - lean villager.

First post of Day 2 - he votes crackedquads. Night 2 could have the missing wolf kill, if we assume JOAT qould go peek, kill.

so given this do you think its worth resolving them before atak?

I can see how it's more apparent to me since I read this all in one sitting while most of you read it piece by piece in real time.

Here are all of atakdog's posts since the RB claim. I think it's pretty clear what's going on here if you read them all together.

Posts: 18
Wolves identified: 0
Villas cleared: 0
Live people talked about: 1 cleared villa (Kukra)
Times it was helpfully clarified that he'd totally never do this as the wolf vig: 1

If that ain't anti-spew mode I don't know what is.

Jonny really has the tough decision. Assume they kill Kukra and me in the next two nights and we take down crossnerd and sixfour. I would the urge everyone to follow Jonny and could go Kruze, Atak or someone else.

His point is if you are villa voting villa roleblocker then wolves coulda just come in and all majoritied cn and won the game

Please refrain from voting early in future days; it only helps the wolves

oh god lets just cfd books lol

The missing wolf kill is n3 or else atak was roleblocked

Tokyo kill to clear atak can only be n3

I’m almost done with yard so I can get on and make the definitive post to clear up once and for all the nks so people can stop guessing

if i was a wolf i would already be voting crossnerd, just sayin'

all kidding aside youre right tho i kind of saw that coming this weekend and after river flipped villa i was just like... why is it never easy

sixfour not bc i wanna yeet him over xnerd but bc i feel like a second wagon isnt the worst thing in the world to have