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'07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters '07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters

06-25-2020 , 04:54 PM
Is it case-sensitive? Does it need to be "Felix the Cat"?
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06-25-2020 , 04:59 PM
Luckbox
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06-25-2020 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronk56
Luckbox
Now this is actually kinda wolfy.
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06-25-2020 , 05:00 PM
wasn't there going to be a gus wagon
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06-25-2020 , 05:01 PM
Except I'd be really surprised if Aaron is a wolf based on how he played the last game. But he should have a better feel for me after just wolfing with me.
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06-25-2020 , 05:03 PM
Aaron,
Can you give your thoughts on me really quickly?
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06-25-2020 , 05:04 PM
Day 2: Automated Votals from #1332 to #1756

Luckbox Inc (4): Sun Tzu (21), jonnyd (23), Luckbox Inc (59), aaronk56 (15)
shortline99 (4): JDalla (22), dmk (39), Tokyo!! (42), wdcbooks (17)
gusmahler (2): Kukraprout (44), shortline99 (58)
dmk (1): coordi (7)
KruZe (1): YouKnowWho (17)
coordi (1): Felix the Cat (17)
Not voting (11): atakdog (0), biggerboat (0), crackedquads (0), Crossnerd (0), gusmahler (13), KruZe (0), mrs. jonnyd (2), Nicholasp27 (0), riverfish1 (0), sixfour (1), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 3h55m. Hammer at 12.

Vote history:
Spoiler:
shortline99 (2): crackedquads -> gusmahler
wdcbooks (2): Luckbox Inc -> shortline99
dmk (3): atakdog -> atakdog -> shortline99
Kukraprout (2): shortline99 -> gusmahler
Tokyo!! (2): crackedquads -> shortline99
Luckbox Inc (5): Crossnerd -> dmk -> wdcbooks -> Crossnerd -> Luckbox Inc
JDalla (1): shortline99
coordi (1): dmk
gusmahler (2): jonnyd -> Unvote
Felix the Cat (3): atakdog -> Luckbox Inc -> coordi
jonnyd (3): shortline99 -> gusmahler -> Luckbox Inc
aaronk56 (2): shortline99 -> Luckbox Inc
YouKnowWho (1): KruZe
Sun Tzu (1): Luckbox Inc

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06-25-2020 , 05:09 PM
Took a look at traz and birdman's opinions in their last hour:

Traz
Luckbox bad
Coordi bad
Mrs jonnyd good
Jonnyd bad

Birdman
luckbox bad
coordi bad
Sun good
Bigger good
Dmk good
Aaron bad
Crossnerd bad

They both voted Luckbox and coordi. I could get behing those.
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06-25-2020 , 05:09 PM
Anyways. Went back and reread mrs. jonnyd a little bit, since she's perhaps gotten the least attention of anyone except Nich.

Key points:

* An icky kinda-off-wagon atakdog vote at :59 (to be fair atakdog was 3rd wagon and things were moving quickly)
* Despite aao being the lead wagon basically all day, right up until nightfall, never commented on it - even when the JDalla counterwagon formed and she had things to say about that, aao wasn't mentioned. If you think the JDalla wagon's the sketchiest wagon, why not vote aao to widen his lead over JDalla?
* Actually, before she commented on the JDalla counterwagon being not good, she had said that JDalla seemed suspicious to her. Her transition to being against voting JDalla out was based more on voting dynamics than her read on JDalla though, so I don't know how much this is worth - it didn't seem like a strong feeling.
* Her content toward the end of the day is pretty solid besides the points above, feels like she's trying to identify wolves, just has a ginormous aao-shaped blind spot.


Verdict: on the wolfy side for sure, not lock wolf. Probably shouldn't live to must lynch though.
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06-25-2020 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
Took a look at traz and birdman's opinions in their last hour:

Traz
Luckbox bad
Coordi bad
Mrs jonnyd good
Jonnyd bad

Birdman
luckbox bad
coordi bad
Sun good
Bigger good
Dmk good
Aaron bad
Crossnerd bad

They both voted Luckbox and coordi. I could get behing those.
This isn't how people actually make reads
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06-25-2020 , 05:10 PM
gus

the most likely explanation is that the wolves thought dobby impersonator was gonna win the contest and thus roleblocked him

with no n0 actions, they wouldn't have any other info to go on for who to roleblock

nobody should be voting shorty for jdalla's claim

jdalla looks villager and shorty is neutral from the claim
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06-25-2020 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
This isn't how people actually make reads
what do you know about making reads?
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06-25-2020 , 05:11 PM
Wouldn't Birdman have been the SK kill? Am I misunderstanding what happened last night?
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06-25-2020 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
gus

the most likely explanation is that the wolves thought dobby impersonator was gonna win the contest and thus roleblocked him

with no n0 actions, they wouldn't have any other info to go on for who to roleblock

nobody should be voting shorty for jdalla's claim

jdalla looks villager and shorty is neutral from the claim
What about emo-shorty?
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06-25-2020 , 05:12 PM
And why not me Nich?
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06-25-2020 , 05:13 PM
emo shorty is role neutral

you ever try to lynch me as any role using backwards logic? this is how it goes.

also, didn't you actually vote yourself? where do you get off calling me emo
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06-25-2020 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix the Cat
Wouldn't Birdman have been the SK kill? Am I misunderstanding what happened last night?
based on writeup he looks to be vig kill, not sk kill (bobo sk kill since fingers chopped off)
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06-25-2020 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tokyo!!
And shortline is right regardless of role - the amount of non-voters/lack of voters on D1 and today is. If you have posted in this thread today, you need to vote at least for now (though obviously if we get close to a majority, don't).

There are at least 3 posters today not contributing (gusmahler (13), mrs. jonnyd (1), Sun Tzu (8))
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Originally Posted by VoraciousMother
Not voting (12): atakdog (0), biggerboat (0), crackedquads (0), Crossnerd (0), Felix The Cat (0), gusmahler (13), KruZe (0), mrs. jonnyd (2), Nicholasp27 (0), riverfish1 (0), sixfour (1), UNVOTE (0)
Why single me out when I have the most number of posts on this list? I was around this morning and tried to actually analyze the night actions and Jdalla's claim.

I don't understand the shortline wagon. Is it based solely on jdalla's claim? I agree with those who say jdalla's claim is independent of shortline's role.

Is it based off of his reaction? I don't have much experience against him, so I have no idea about his tone wrt his normal tone. But I think it's natural to react to an out of the blue accusation that doesn't make much sense.
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06-25-2020 , 05:17 PM
shortline vs whoever shortline wants dead would be great wagons imo. I would have been content leaving my vote on gus but it doesnt seem to be happening anymore.

Luckbox
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06-25-2020 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Aaron,
Can you give your thoughts on me really quickly?
Just helping a brother out. You are voting yourself.
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06-25-2020 , 05:19 PM
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06-25-2020 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
shortline vs whoever shortline wants dead would be great wagons imo. I would have been content leaving my vote on gus but it doesnt seem to be happening anymore.

Luckbox
so then... you vote the guy i said was a villager?

and unvote the guy i was voting?

are you sure you're reading this thread?
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06-25-2020 , 05:21 PM
Something just came to mind. Who would be likely to SPK/policy kill traz despite him having difficulties with time, not contributing a huge amount and not looking like he's going to captain the village to a win?

I'm not sure if all of us had enough experience with traz to make him the n0 SPK. I probably wouldn't give traz too much credit. Would few enough people look to SPK him n0 that we could narrow down the list of suspects? I'm legit asking, I don't know who would or wouldn't, I don't remember the meta to that level of detail, lol.
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06-25-2020 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by shortline99
emo shorty is role neutral

you ever try to lynch me as any role using backwards logic? this is how it goes.

also, didn't you actually vote yourself? where do you get off calling me emo
I'm trying to figure out why Nich is ignoring it as he was the one who pointed it out the last time.
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06-25-2020 , 05:23 PM
right, busted donkament after a well timed shove into aces, it seems as if it's shorty against dustin? with gus as an alternative? i don't recall a huge amount of gus's posts, but i'm thinking it's got to be a better alternative than dustin and definitely better than shortline, gus

got about an hour or so, going to read through today now
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