they already have. if he had looked at the $162 Nightly 100k (now the nightly 50K) that starts 30 min earlier, or any of the ones starting later he woulda seen they were all lower, most by about 50%.

They are still showing the Scoop's as unchanged, but I'd be surprised if they go off that way. I really couldn't care less though. apperently I aint playing em this year.

fyp

In all seriousness though, this sucks for everyone, US or otherwise.

Well put imo.. I already wrote a lengthy letter to my congressman expressing this sentiment. Not that it will actually accomplish anything, but it makes me feel a little bit better.

are this now good news, for europeans ?

i dont think they will keept the sunday million up for 1.5 Million, if yes, it will be much less players

whats about merge and cake btw.

if a us player wants to move let me know

Thank you for your input and the update on what is happening over there. As a US player, I appreciate you taking your time to show support and inform others of what is happening in your corner of the world. No action in this war will be insignificant.

Well, they are basically enforcing an existing law. That's kind of their job. They have the ability to pick and choose what cases they want to file, though. However, if this guy didn't do it, somebody else would have.

The only permanent solution is to vote for enough Congressmen and Senators to change the law, and a President who won't veto it. Namely some Democrats (although not all Democrats), and libertarian-leaning Republicans (but not religious-right Republicans, which is the vast majority of them). So, at a minimum, 218 Congressman, 60 Senators (to block a filibuster) and the President, or 292 Congressmen and 67 Senators to overturn the President's veto.

Chances of this happening are quite low, especially in a "business as usual" international format as opposed to local intrastate sites, possibly run by the government itself, possibly indian or regular casinos, or possibly a multi-state site. US players playing international on line poker is almost certainly permanently dead. US players playing any type of legal on line poker (other than ClubWPT.com style with a monthly fee and then prizes) is more likely than not dead for years, likely decades, possibly permanently.

+1.

Yup, from the WA state debacle.

Has anyone inside or outside the us been able to withdraw funds from Full Tilt ?

And lets say that the US sanctions ipoker eventually, is there going to be another moneymaker type boom for poker again? Thoughts wanted anyways.

I want to be there for online opening up again, or all the impatient online players at the b&m.

no im not going to any live poker room we should protest B&M's after this make them hurt till we get online poker legal in the us

Compelled to write my first post, sympathy and bewilderment from the UK. A sad bad day indeed.

i didnt try , but i heard its impossible and shld be also impossible the next weeks

this is ofc frustating

Thank you for telling fellow poker players what's going on there. You are wrong that no one probably cares what's going on in your country.
It's important to know the full context of how so many countries and politicians are trying, for a multitude of reasons, to either restrict online poker or eliminate it. It's important that we as a group are educated in how bad things have become in so many places across the globe for poker because it helps us to find new ways to seek ways to legalize and legitimize online poker.

And thank you for your compassion for what we just got dealt here in the states. A great many of us are now unemployed as a result of what took place on Friday and face one of the most unsure and scary futures we've ever had to deal with. For many of us, it will be very nearly impossible to replicate through a "real" job the income level we've had for years.

Best of luck to you in your country.

its absolutely disgusting on so many different levels, none of them that involve ipoker getting shut down, that should have and was an inevitability,based on the US system. where the **** was the outrage when UIGEA got passed? where was the outrage when the government thought it was okay to pass legislation which is ENTIRELY based on personal opinions? the goddamn SECOND it was ok to regulate what the public did with their own funds, their should have been outrage, their wasnt. im guilty of it as well, the status quo was comfortable...and thats the hugest problem, comfortability in spots where there should be outrage if not all out ****ing revolt. the fact of the matter is it was NEVER ok to tack laws that so obviously break down the entire idea of a free democracy and induce obvious hypocrisy....ex how can ANYONE in any legislative authority explain how A) prohibition didnt work B) they fixed it by relegalizing alcohol and then C) tell me they can still ban other "vices"....really? maybe we need a bigger lobby with more money, since thats where our ENTIRE legislative system comes from. what a joke.

+1 here, as well. I'm sure France and Italy thought they were a pretty free land not so long ago during the poker boom and now they're restricted to the confines of their countries' borders for online play. There are other countries that slip my mind right now that are also dealing with the outright stripping away of freedoms when it comes to the simple and innocuous game of playing cards for monetary wagers. It is happening on a yearly basis, little by little, in every corner of the globe. Those of you lucky enough to still have relatively unhindered access to online poker for money, do not become complacent in your freedom and lower your guard; it can vanish in only a few years of political climate change in your country, too.

Such a sad day for the concept of democracy and an equally sad day for the concept of capitalism.

Has the era of online poker in the US come to a sudden end? Or will US vs PokerStars, FTP, and UB set a new precedent for legitimizing online poker?

Thoughts?

Its game over imo for now, but i beleive that the sites are working with the gov to eventually bring it legal, but the gov has to show a bit of force for the short term to keep their "image" stable hence why we seeing these .com's shut down.

thats my uneducated opinion, no us players on the major sites is a bit of a shock tho. just logged into PS and there is 100k+ players online right now, hrm doesnt seem to hurt the numbers when the US donks are blocked even lol.

+1 for germany, btw sidestatus on fulltiltpoker.net says. "system is down due to maintanance"

pokerstars just got me this popup:

The US in the form of its military and academic institutions created the internet decades ago. They can grab a domain name without much problem. because in fact and because governments have no respect for property rights.

This was sadly inevitable. You think the feds want to allow anything that enables independece from the system? People who piss in cups aren't productive cogs in the machine.

peace

Just tried to log on to FT.....no go.....over......for now!

cant even update my ftp

I'm from Israel,

When I try open FT it says it needs to update and when I press OK it fails to update.

As far as I understand I should be able to play.

Am I missing something?

I have also noticed FillTiltPoker.net and thought I might be able to download the client updated from there. However I am scared that it is a phising site. Is it?

No way. Really?