Unfortunate news despite predictability. Few shady operations remain unchallenged. Progress toward regulation but harmful to short term. Wonder what future awaits online poker.

let me know how this goes plz

The managers of the sites clearly effed up. Greedy and stupid.

However, that still shouldn't be grounds to closing US-ONLY cash poker.

WTF. When Worldcom was caught manipulating earnings and defrauding the entire world, were they forced to stop providing communication services to the entire US?

No - the parties involved were arrested and jailed and the company kept moving on as a going concern.

this and how to establish residency in a foreign country were 2 of my top 3 questions i wanted answered today

Yes but it was attached to the port security bill in an election year. No one trying to get reelected was going to vote for it and then be labeled soft on terrorism.

Take heart. Mr. Frist did make state lotteries and horse racing exempt, so start buying more lottery tickets and betting the ponies. You can't count outs but at least it's still legal.

Not talking about that, was responding to the notion that DC is a sovereign entity and not part of the US.

News Flash: launching cruise missiles at Full Tilt ..
The FBI Has discover weapons of mass tilting.
Then, wait for it: full on invasion

ultimatebet is still working fine for me

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just an fyi, vatican city is actually sovereign and separate from Italy. DC is not separate from the US, the city of london is not separate from England.

I understand this is your first post, So I will try not to come off like to much of a ass, But unless you have been living under a rock they were unable to do business with banks lawfully because of the uigea of 2006, which stated it was illegal for banks to fund gaming transactions

i would like to know this too. I am non-us player and so far from just observing the games i play usually tonight i am looking forward to grinding it out in the coming weeks with much less regs (short sighted for now).

I see it impossible for the sites to be shut down as they are not based in the u.s and other euro sites are still alive years after uiega shut out u.s players.

But i would like to know more on this 'credible source'

Chin up. A similar thing happened like this in 1920, called prohibition.

People didn't stop drinking, underground clubs popped up, if anything - it blossomed into a more lucrative business outside of the U.S. law. The weapon of the day was axes and sledgehammers to bust up the barrels. Today, it's by electronic methods.

Online poker isn't going to stop. Sites will continue to pop up, people will find ways to get around it. Will it be easy? Not at all but where there's a will, there's a way.

This is the first step in legalization of online poker. A couple of states were on the verge of making it legal, so the feds swoop in in time to make sure they get their piece of the pie.

Soon enough, you'll be seeing MGM and Harrah's competing for the best rakeback deal to sign new customers up.

Can we still play other sites... Carbon et al?

We were all told -- 4.5 years ago when UIGEA passed. We've been on borrowed time since then.

Just a quick note for those who could still play after the domain was seized, the poker client probably runs off of IP addresses instead of the www.pokersite.com addresses. All a DNS does is change www.pokersite.com into an IP address.

Edit: The 24-48 hours just means the main websites will go down, it doesn't mean their operations will be shutdown unless something other than domain name seizures is happening.

This time we made Sportscenter.

If we actually decide to do something besides give up and play nice, the channels that air poker should at least run some responsible reporting on what happened.

Would anyone think that it would be a general good idea to make a "What can I do to help" thread . A place where we can organize ideas and share information on what we can do as individuals besides the usual mass email alert we get from the PPA whenever something huge happens.

I for instance I wouldn't mind making some phone calls to politicians, radio stations etc...mentioning a few points to them in a friendly manner. Im not as politically savvy as many of the members are here, but I dont mind making a modest effort for a few hours one of the days this week. I think a thread in this forums would encourage us all to try a little harder.

As a poker coach I don't mind reaching out to my community to spread some awareness of whats going on. I want people to know that I'm a poker player, I'm a nice guy, Its a skill game, I spent years of my life perfecting it, Im losing my job and something that really makes me happy.

+1

Even though this news sucks for all of us and I know it hurts you as well. Somewhere deep down inside, you have to be saying to yourself....See I told you ****ers the status quo wouldn't last forever, now do you believe me.

I bet that 15month blackout in the Reid proposal looks real sweet to everyone now

anyone saying "I told you so", etc cmon mannnnnnnnn. Don't be that guy.

months ago I PMd a PPA member on here about this and didn't get a response. I'm not trying to slam the guy because he was probably just busy and couldn't get to it, but I just wanted to add that I think a thread would be a good way to get enough people interested to get the notice and help from the PPA or whomever.

I always send those letters to reps and the president and local guys. but I feel like there is probably some more that can be done.

cliffs: good idea and +1 imo

type "london vatican washington" into google. start with a video result or two, than maybe try the wiki site for a quick read about it.

BTW, US = United States, DC = District of Columbia. US = 50 states and Washington D.C. is not one of them. check inside any federally run building and the flag will have a gold fringe, meaning it is under international military rule and law, not US constitutional law; ie. state rule. Any flag flying over or in a non-federally run bldg will not have this fringe, because our flag has no fringe. Its colors are Red, White, and Blue, without Gold.

Either way, that was a 'beside the point' issue and not a discussion issue for this thread. Please stick to the topic at hand. I am sorry I brought it up.

Count me as another person that isn't shocked at all...I haven't been playing online in months, but I'll miss not having that option available.

I feel bad for the people who don't live anywhere near a casino and/or don't have a local home game.

So is the money we had on the sites completely lost ?
or will we get it back after this all dies down