Im sure some of yall poker players are republican or tea zealots crying about the defecit. Well dang they just seized a few billion, that should be your cup of tea. Ban me because i disagree with most of the posters. I hope online poker comes back strong just legalized and not losing money with ewallet seizures and crap like that

I am rolling the dice and cashing out...otherwise $$$ could be tied up for long long time...rather take my chances atm then wait ages for unknown...

The client and the integrated areas from the website to the server or the website itself are different things. The client probably has 10 to 15 different URLs that it can contact if the main 2-5 go down or are over-run or attacked. The website specific "http://www.fulltiltpoker.com" is what the DOJ and FBI seized and may have also strategically been redirected to proxies and pseudos by now by the site ownwers and operators.

+1

I am a US player on the east coast and I just logged on to UB and cashed out, as I did before (with success), and everything seems to be going fine.

It's currently processing but I got no pop-ups or any kind of notifications on the issue at hand, nor did I have any trouble logging on.

UB's website, however, is blocked for me.

I'm sure it won't last regardless of why I'm still able to play

Either way, I have only a tiny part of my role on Full Tilt. I few months ago I made the decision to move to the smaller sites for various reasons. Guess I'm lucky for now.

For all those who have money on Full Tilt, Hang in there! The rest of the poker community will hopefully stand behind everyone.

How stupid would it be to reload my inactive Carbon account with just a little $ to grind with? You know, to combat serious poker withdrawal ... which has already set in.

I too will be carefull, but IMO even winnin the legality of poker limits that; I.E. Washington State.

Even Gin Rummy, which is an old case frlm the 1960's (which the DoJ lost) with USPS v a Tournament* ruling Gin was a game of skill is limited to about 34 U S states.

*They were mailing and receiving tournament entries via U S Mail. A federal judge ruled Gin was a game of skill and did not violate and Federal Anti Gambling Laws.

So, if poker were to win, they still lose with the games offered in states where it is not legal (about 14-16 states).

obg

I got one in the pipeline 3 hours ago. I don't think it'll matter much. It's still in my history as a pending transaction. I checked the withdrawal window later and got a popup that says"not available due to USA blah blah blah" and now I checked and got a cannot make a secure connection message.

I bet if I tried to deposit into my account, it would take 10 seconds.

I requested a paper check also. Hopefully I can get it.

And I am a registered republican, a very strong conservative, and a faitfull Christian. And anyone who thinks that any government should be able to shut down or seize money or power from a privately or publically owned company or take away its power to govern itself or fail on its own is intellectually dishonest and morally corrupt. There are legal ways to prosecute illegal activity and what was done today was not an example of that. There is no law making "online poker" illegal, nor is there any implication in any law that makes it even partially illegal. The only true offences they have are the money laundering and bank fraud. And neither of those should affect the US poker players at all. Unfortunately it is since the gov't is being dishonest in also charging with some online gambling charges.

Wow....

Just Wow.

their servers havent moved at all. their servers were never in the US, they were in europe the whole time. the domain name is now registered in the EU vs america, that is all

This might be the distrust I have in the government (especially sad since I'm a government employee), but should we be reading into the timing of this? The April 15th thing is likely a coincidence, but I find it interesting that billions of dollars in seizures may be occurring only days after the government budget was passed that slashed ~$34 billion.

Well, sort of, I didn't really need any help as I thought the sites WA policies made zero sense.

I questioned why it was OK to serve WA for four years with the law in effect then, suddenly, it wasn't.

Made no sense to me, sites should have either left in '06 or stayed and claimed state law didnt apply.

We found out today the answer was that it wasn't OK to serve and the sites screwed up massively. As I thought, their WA policies made zero sense.

davmcg:

Taking into account the fact that I am not a legal expert, I would guess that the reason Ruth Parasol (and her husband) were not included as defendants in the indictment is because Party Poker promptly withdrew from the U.S. market as soon as the UIGEA was signed into law back in 2006. All the ones who were named in the indictment are affiliated with sites which continued to serve the U.S. market after enactment of the UIGEA.

I would agree on the part about opposing any elected official who is stridently anti-poker. This is hardball. The AARP (and other powerful lobbying organizations) get their way because politicians fear crossing them. That's kind of what has to happen with respect to poker: We have to start pouring money into the campaigns of pols who are our friends - and working to defeat the pols who are our enemies.

Former DJ

Pretty sure that's what the PPA is trying to do.

Please go away. You are an idiot. I don't think any "tea zealots" think more government interference into private commerce and the legislation of morality is a good thing. Some hard line Evangelicals, maybe but not "tea zealots".

WILL ONLINE POKER STAY LEGAL IN WASHINGTON D.C.?

Apparently Wynn terminated alliance with stars. That's not good

Question..... I used instant e checks on full tilt poker... deposited 400 about 2 months ago and the money still hasnt been taken out of my account... do you think they will eventually get the money from me or is it safe to say the 400 is mine

What a socialist bunch you are, disagree with anyone here at the might 2+2 and people scream ban and claim they want smaller government, typical republican double talk, anyone who doesnt want to see a legal form of online poker instead of this skirting the law stuff is insane

Withdrawal put back into my account just now, 3.5 hours after I made it...

(This is on FTP, btw)

So based on latest Full Tilt statement (copied below), I went ahead and requested a premium bank wire cashout of $8k. My interpretation is that they are giving a green light for U.S. players to withdraw. I hope I'm interpreting correctly.

In light of recent events involving the freezing of certain accounts, Full Tilt Poker would like to assure all players that their funds remain safe and secure. Processing of both deposit and withdrawal requests is proceeding as normal and is still available to all of our players.

All players who were affected by the current situation have had their funds returned to their accounts and all new withdrawal requests are processing normally. We assure all players on Full Tilt Poker that your online playing experience will not change and that you will be able to both deposit and withdraw funds as needed. Your money remains safe, secure and accessible at all times.

Full Tilt Poker remains committed to the protection of our players’ security and legal rights, and will continue to provide the best and safest online poker room available worldwide.