you may not be unethical but you are certainly an idiot! even more lol for posting this under a new name. your friend owes you nothing.

youre a complete ******, you might even be Roseeker, not sure yet

So if you bet on a game with someone, you usually ship him the money 5 min before its over, and then you go "press criminal charges" (or whatever you call it) against teams for losing? You are ******ed. That's why escrow on bet is held until judges come out with their decision.

im really really interested in that, but dont really have time to read through 250 sites, PLEASE cliffs !
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There's a link to the cliffs in the first ****ing post.

So sick how many scams 2+2 (more specifically a handful of diligent and curious ones) has uncovered over last few years. Obviously this is nothing like the superusers, but it's still ****ty/awesome.

jalex, please confirm that The Human Fund is your preferred charity

winners of the bet should ship jalex (or whoever uncovered the cheating) a little something for their time/effort

I shipped $10 just so he gets some annoying "$10 received" popup when he's playing.

everyone should ship a dollar who read this thread just for the entertainment!

i believe there is. haha

went to sleep and then went to class and i come back to like 1987198731283 more posts. ridiculous.

Why hasnt Obama hired jalex yet? Put him on the case, and we'll find Bin Laden TONIGHT! jalexander for mod/god/alpha and omega

jalex I'm pretty sure my wife is having an affair, but can't prove it... How much do you charge per hour for your services?

Are you saying you want to rape the offenders?

Seriously though. I'd feel confident that they would never do anything like this again if their parents were informed of what they have been up to. That is the worst thing you could do to me if I was in this situation...and it is measured and fair.

ro, you should get no credit for any entertainment. jalex provided the entertainment by totally owning you guys.

and barnfire, you did the right thing man. gj.

lol demand personal info, internet tough guy no.2 here, makes a new account to post as well. What did you expect was going to happen with so much money on the line? do you think the internet is full of trust worthy people, no its not, 90% is full of pedophiles, 9% liars, and the other 1% is women who are actually men

also, it has to be said that jalex's cliff notes post has to be one of the greatest posts in 2+2 history.

I followed this thread from day one when it was only one page. I watched Gary on webcam at 6am sharp when he started the prop bet. I haven't been a regular on this site.

I was wrong when I thought there was no way he could pull the volume of 30k hands, especially having not slept properly beforehand. After reviewing his PTR data, I thought there was a 40% chance he could come out ahead as long as he managed to eke out the hands by some miracle.

Then I was wrong again when I misinterpreted the bettors' hue and cry about the T7 hand as just sour grapes. I espoused the opinion that the judges should ship da mahhhhneeez. The facts that Ro and Nostag (who I obviously assumed were two separate, unrelated Pooh-Bah posters) were making seemingly good cases for shipping influenced my opinion. My opinion was in the bare majority at the time IIRC.

And I was wrong a third time when I said something snarky to Jalex early on, which I apologized for very soon after and still relatively early on. About this time I flipped a 180 and joined the minority (sizeable) opinion that Gary was a fraud and should not be paid.

A lot of the posters over the last few hundred posts have eloquently expressed my feelings about this debacle and its conclusion, so I don't need to repeat it. The one sentiment I do feel is an exception and does need repeating is that I'd like to thank Jalex for doing a thorough job of exploring the suspicious circumstances and reporting on his investigation in the most helpful way possible. He has shown dedication to this community above and beyond what I would expect of a staff member, let alone a moderator, let alone a regular poster.

Just as I started to think RoSeeker's apology was sincere, I read his spoiler where he fired one last personal attack at me. While it is true that I have fired plenty at him, and I shouldn't dish out what I can't take, it is also true that, unlike SOME people, I have not scammed anyone out of one dime. All I'm guilty of is hogging too much attention in this thread and going overboard on the attacks, for which I am genuinely sorry to the community. But not to the scammers for the actual content of the posts.

Jalex stated good reasons not to permaban these accounts, but rather to force a "cheater/scammer" appellation below their names, rather than Poo-Bah or whatever. It would be an extreme travesty of justice if these scammers did not have a public airing of their pictures, names, and hometowns.

So in conclusion, I learned a lot from this entire experience, and it made me feel more like a member of a real community that cares about maintaining our collective integrity. That is a very good feeling. I also learned how wrong I was at first, and how I tried to overcompensate that by going overboard on the frequency of the attacks to no productive end. And unlike SOME people, I am writing this post of thoughts, explanations, and apology without any prompting from anyone.

Jalex for mod. Everyone who won money should donate 10% of the total swing to Jalex.

Your wife is already paying him

Well, to be fair, I don't think anyone here really cares what you think, so you'd probably be waiting a while for that prompt.

"Every ****ing time the threads start getting good, that piece of **** blackgerbil1 comes in and starts writing total ****ing ****"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAD3wFjqWDc

i like starrazz's apology more than dumb and dumber's (not sure which is which).

Ouch. Why so harsh, Brian?

thread of the decade and its so young. 2+2 has peaked, where does it go from here?

jalex = win

yeah, 30 more pages of endless gloating and kicking a dead horse would be great.

perhaps it could spawn into a "poker is not skill" debate.