No worries... I was actually listening to some Ludacris today while grinding although even if I wasnt I would probably spell it the same. I have terrible grammar/spelling for the most part. On a side note Ludacris is actually one of my favorite rappers unlike Juicy J. Im not sure why I chose Juicy J as a nickname other than my last name starts with a J and I probably thought I was cooler than what I was when I made the screen name.

Summer is a factor for sure. Besides that I think there just are not enough regs to keep the games running. If you had say 7-8 regs that were always regging 15s then the fish are much more likely to come. When they only see 2-3 guys regged they are not going to sit around and wait for the games to fill. 18 mans are also in heavy competition for players with hypers and being that the O8 pool is so small its hard to keep both formats flush with players. If Im being honest I would prefer to play 18 mans over hypers but it just doesnt make any sense in terms of profitability given the current state of 18 mans.

To add a different perspective I think that although being able to multi table well is an asset and a necessity if you want to make money playing hypers or 18 mans, it is actually overrated and can detract from your game.

Although I am capable of muti tabling as as primarily an MTT guy I think playing too many tables can hurt your game and turn you into a robot. My ultimate goal is to try and play around 6 tables but just play realy well and focused in every one of those MTTS.

Obviously this presents volume issues with the lack of choice of o8 so I am not yet able to do this as much as I would like.

Some interesting decisions there not sure I agree with all of them.

12 tabling for sure is not optimal for getting better although I think its not as detrimental to your game in sngs compared to mtts and cash due to the fact most of your decisions are made pre flop compared to post flop. I still play cash from time to time although not much but when I do play 6 is my max as any more than that I feel like Im just missing out on a ton of postflop value. When I first got into poker I 20 tabled cash games for a few months before dropping all the way down to 6 as it became pretty clear I wasnt improving any by mass tabling.

Do elaborate - you think some of the guys I have tagged as fish are strong and vice-versa?

I tried 12-tabling today, playing 18-mans/MTTs and cash. My game suffered unquestionably, and I made some crucial mistakes especially in the Sit and Gos. Add in runbad, and subsequent steaming I am certainly going to sick with only playing 8 tables or less from now on.

**** variance.

What do the colors mean?

Yep with you 100% on this. Any more than 6 tables you start to lose details, miss plays, can't take notes etc. I usually do 5-8 tables (with the lesser games in the background, more important games in the fore). Unless I am deep in MTTs, I'd say 5 is optimal for me.

I'd guess a big problem for some mega volume players is that if they dial it back to 6 or less tables, it can, remarkably, seem quite slow and pedestrian.

Yellow = prelim
Green = ******ed
Light blue = weak
blue = solid player
dark blue/purple = serious player
red = special shark (I only have 4 of these)

I appreciate the light blue color, mate.

Be crushing you later.

I think he actually labeled you green...haha you probably said something to him to piss him off to get that label

Lev_G serious player (18man)? he got 5% roi this year







i have that avg profit at 1.5$

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What is my color, Quantum? ¿green?

I am delighted to accept competition from all disgruntled 2+2ers at the tables. Today, Nickson, rbkgutt, thundrxpre$$ (poor thundr, my offer is still open) felt fit to trash talk me at the tables. The nerve of some people.


Mate, honestly, you did not play well today. I caught a few all-ins pre with A 8 J Q type hands when not a short stack? We all play badly at times but you only play well at times - be proud, you earned that light blue label many moons ago

Nah, my ratings are genuine, I use them daily to help with decisions.

You are blue btw as is wadzon. Shakey and luckyfool are light blues like rbk.
Ratings are based on patience and range pre-flop and skill post-flop.

You probably get why you are no more than blue under my ratings system and why it's not AS big an insult as it first seems. So while I may have lev rated purple and you blue, it doesn't necessarily mean I think lev is a better player. Although when I rate omahaha, personal and bid23biz as purples, it does.

stupid question... could someone tell me how to post an image i.e my grahps n stuff?

I play lev in many formats (mtts and cash) where his head is much more in the game than it is at times in SnGs. Lev is also the all-time record luckbox in this particular game and format, so, obviously I prefer to avoid racing this guy and my label reminds me of this when he raises pre (his style is different than JJ's).

No. You are a blue (only mastahdonk and brobroflayva* have ever earned purples in the games I usually see you in). Time for you to move up IMO.

Poker is a bit like the development of pro sportsmen. Take messi or mcilroy - they had all the talent to beat the world at 15/16 but didn't until after they had the experience and were able to adapt to changing environments.

Sometimes when players switch format or move up in stakes, they feel uncomfortable and don't play their natural game, which holds them back. I think if you were able to play your regular game in a different environment, you could do well

One way is to use onenote to take a screenshot of your graph or whatever, then open an account with imgur.com. Once you upload your images to imgur (copy and paste from onenote), you can generate links which work in this forum (linked BB code).

ok i think ive got it...

some stats:
all in equity - 48.94
vpip - 30.87
pfr - 30.11
WSD - 66.59
WTSD% - 88.89

ok so hopefull this will work.

this is my graph for the month so far, as you can see i have played a fair bit of volume. but it still looks like ****, could anyone shead some light on what im doing wrong asides the ovbious running below ev.

just trying to improve the best i can. ive tried different strats and not had much luck. not sure if my knowlegde of icm is just off or what coz my stats are very similar so some of the big winners but that ev line doesnt seem to go up to much lol

also the fact that i finish 3rd n 4th more then any posistion is very anoying.

any help would be appricated

now I understand the notes

hahaha sad, I wanted be green.

Im in process to move Up, but need more money.

gl

I dont have a real big sample on you so its a bit hard to analyze your game but I guess I can give you some advice. The first thing I noticed going over your stats is that 5 handed you seem to be defending your bb too wide and not wide enough 4 handed. 3 handed you could probably play a bit looser from the button. HU I would also recommend being a bit more agro from the button. Again I have a small sample size on you so my information is probably not completely accurate but based on the info I do have those are the areas I think you could improve on.

Hi Everyone,

Great post and without adding fuel to the fire and the polite conversation what exactly do you need to study to be good at these games, I am also a long time lurker at 2+2 and am fed up with struggling in Texas hold em and have looking into studying this game, and advise appreciated.

Bod

What exactly do you need to study? Hard to articulate. Obviously poker is poker and positional play is freely interchangeable between Texas and Omaha, so there's nothing new to learn from that POV (assuming you cracked it in Texas).

Perhaps for this split-pot game, one good strategy is to get into the rhythm of seeing cheap flops with strong draw hands (A 2 3 X, A 3 4 5 , A T J Q ds type hands) and learning how hard and how fast to push the action with premium hands (A 2 3 K ds, A A 3 4). Note this isn't a great strategy for hyper-turbos (i.e. limping with A 2 3 4 is a very risky play unless you know what you are trying to do and know what you want your opponents to do). In HTs, aggression is definitely the better part of valour and many players ONLY shove/fold pre.

If you visit propokertools.com you can find a complete ranking of all hands. If you are new to OH8, I would suggest going to cardplayer.com and accessing the odds calculators. Select Omaha, then 8 or better, then plug in a few hands you think are good in direct opposition. You will be surprised at some of the odds and outcomes. I recommend plugging in hands like A 2 3 4 vs A J Q K, then 4 4 5 7 ds vs A 6 Q K. Plug in some premium hands and tweak them from double-suited to unsuited, add and remove low cards, watch how the odds change and the value of each hand attribute (in OH8, A 2 suited > A A). Remember to investigate how hand values and attributes change HU and multi-handed.

Hand selection and your posture pre-flop is an essential part of all poker games in all formats. Your actions pre-flop can dictate the flow of the hand and your overall game. If you have this cracked then just about the best thing you could do is look up the moderator, "Buzz". You will see a thread thanking him for his efforts in the main lobby. Generally this mod writes from a tight-aggressive POV and gives advice that is universal to most games and is particularly useful if you are unsure of how to act in given situations.

OR, you can just play like juicy - that is shove all-in from any and all positions with any and all cards vs any and all opponents. IF you are as lucky as he is, you won't need to worry about actual strategy, just close your eyes and shove

Format really matters too. If you are playing 6-max HTs, dust off the gloves and be prepared to be aggressive. If you are playing slow-blind mtts, dust off the pipe and slippers, relax and be the water, don't try to swim against the current. Other games like 18-man SnGs or turbo mtts require a mix of both approaches - generally tight-aggro pipe and slippers early then aggro-hammer late.

You will never learn this game via pure theory though. If you are new, I suggest entering a few low stakes 6-max HT or 18-man turbo SnG to get a feel for it. Next thing is enter satellites for the main MTTs. These are doubly good for newbies as you can get a stellar field at micro-stakes.

If you pick a few players you KNOW are good and have semi-repeatable games, follow them for a bit and try and copy what they do.

Brilliant thanks for that - gonna try the push all and everything in first and see how that goes.

greeter

gotta say that quantum got confirmed to be mentally ill By a lot of posters in this thread (Me included )