Just wanna brag that I have a 7.5% ROI in these over 65,000 games

(although yeah its only 5% for $15+)

Your total roi is actually 6% which is excellent btw. I was referring to total roi which is usually going to be less than your avg roi. Quantums total roi is over 5 and he only plays 15+. He has an avg roi of 6.5. I always refer to total roi and not avg roi when I talk about rois. Its the same as MTT players saying they have a 80% roi because that is there average roi on sharkscope when in reality they have a 30% roi. I just feel like total roi gives a clearer picture but thats just me. Some will think the opposite.

haha if I had of listed more names you would of been included. I think of the current reg group yourself and johnniewalk are the 2 that stand out to me as the most improved.

Does my heater count?

Please johnniewalk is terrible.

What makes you say that?

I actually think you are one of the best guys that plays hypers btw so I respect your opinion. Im just never going to include you on a top list because I dont really consider you a reg.

johnnie has probably run worse against me than anyone and has lost a lot in our games together (He is one of those blocked guys so who knows what his results actually are) but comparing his game from last year to now I genuinely think he has improved quite a bit.

Well i never take just seeing one or two mistakes people make then label them as leaks, because lets be honest we all do stupid **** now and then for what ever reason. There is something i notice him do often that in itself i wouldnt call a big leak but seeing him do it "as a standard" displays a lack of basic fundementals regarding ICM. I really think he has learnt bubble play from just replicating what others do with out having an actual understanding of ICM but then tbf i think this is common in most regs.

LOL yep thats the human factor I guess. Im going to start slapping myself everytime I call mastadonk without a premium hand or shoving on lukro expecting him to understand ICM.

Volume and competency are two completely separate issues. For once Juicy, you're argument is utter nonsense mate. What makes a reg a reg? 50k games? About 5 people do that volume so they are the only ones that are good? Sharkey is easily top 15 probably even good top 10. Most people have lives outside of hypers!! I mean Wadzon would be reg lol but he wouldn't be top 20 on any sane person's list.

Yay I got disconnected in the middle of my set and lost $700.

Now coming to you from my back up internet conection!

How I wish I had one of these earlier.....

I actually gave shakey a lot of credit in my post so I guess I dont really understand your post. Shakey is not in the top 20 in terms of games played this year so no he is not a reg. Volume and competency are not two separate issues. We are playing online poker here. The ability to multi table is one of the most important skills there is in online poker. Shakeys avg buy in this year is 4.6$ so ranking him in my top 5 or even top 10 seems pretty silly even if he does have the skills to beat higher stakes which I do think he does.

I usually throw internet off my cell phone when I lose connection. If that is a possibility for you it can be a real money saver.

Also wadzon should be in anyones top 20. It would be ludacris to not include a guy with a 25$ avg buy in who is up money after 70k games.

Still no answer on Wadzon? Mass volume, less skill than most hyper regs.

And I play 8-12 tables. I have a job. I multi-table. I can't play more than 2 hours of poker a day max and I play other games. The limiting factor is something called time.

Would you give people like me more credit if they quit their jobs to sit in front of a computer 12 tabling hypers for 8 hours a day?

The fact that you acknowledge Sharkey as a good player regardless of his volume seems to me that you agree skill is a completely separate issue.

I would define skill as ability to push effective ranges, adjust ranges to other regs, bubble play, ICM etc. That is how I judge hyper skill. The ability to apply that skill over multiple tables is a separate issue. e.g a NLH cash player playing 6 max and a NLO8 Hyper turbo reg have completely different skill sets for their specific game. They both multi-table. Now suppose they swap over, and use their ability (in your judgement skill) to multi table the other game - clearly this means multi-tabling is a side issue and although it is a skill in itself, it is different from the skill required to play the game in the first place.

I think Juicy looks at those who concern him in his daily play. Guys with low wolume pop up so seldom they can't affect his hourly to any greater extent.

I dont think skill is separate issue. If I gave a ranking on players which is something I wouldnt do on here anyway I would be only ranking the regs and guys like you and shakey dont qualify. Its just that simple. Its not a knock on either of you or your skill level. I have said in the past who I thought were the 5 or 6 best guys but I would never rank them in order at least on here. Some of those guys like macr0s and booink for example dont even play anymore so when I rank regs currently they dont qualify either. The whole idea of ranking other players is not a big priority for me but if I did Im ranking the guys I actually play with not guys I have played 600 games with each in 2 years.

Exactly

Thanks for the laugh, streity.

Buzz (still chuckling)

Well I only really play 15s and 30s if they run. In my games it would be unique to have any less than 5 players of equal or better ability (IMHO) than JJ. Heck I've played many games with a full field of sharks - proper sharks that are at the biz end of the MTTs we're playing and are long-term winners in every format. The only big vol regs we lost are wadzon, juicy, Walter, hammr, macros, bid, Bryan, and that's really it. Obv bid and Bryan are sharks. Of the rest, equivalent players have taken their places. Most importantly the WORST half of the field actually knows how to play these days. In the past about a third of the field was technically ******ed.

Again this is for 15+ but in 6max I find fields all the time with only one player equal or better than juicy. Way more loltards in hypers.

As for koceboce and your hand, hmm. Obv koce isn't the sharpest tool in the box and should never be making that call to your OTT shove (obv A 2 3 X and ds aces and kings are firmly in your range here outside of reads) but I would rarely if ever re-shove to a bigger stack in that spot unless I knew the villain was dribbling over his shoe laces. No, koce ain't no Phil Ivey but he's one of those guys who used to be a huge fish but has gotten significantly better lately (still a ways to go as u saw tho).

As for wadzon - I rail that dude all the time in big MTTs bc he is incredibly entertaining. He's of the viktor bloom school of ULTRA aggression and to hell with the cards you hold or the board. I watched wadzon RE-RAiSE allin on a 2 4 5 flop holding A 2 6 X in a 2100 scoop. Of course the turn was a 3 and he quarters A 2 3 K ds like a boss. I think JJ > wadzon so there ya go. Wadzon is close to a psychopathic VPP machine. The joint worst high stakes reg along with exit4afilm and bullstopper

Just saying "I think" is not a cogent argument though J!!

I am not concerned with ranking either. I am more concerned with how you spelt ludicrous in an above post and my 80+ buy in downswing and counting at hypers. I am on mini tilt at the minute so forgive me if my tone is a bit aggro.

Ludacris, not sure whether it was deliberate or not considering your SN, but one of the best misspellings ever!




No problem Buzz - probably didn't make me laugh as much as Pansy cultivator every time I looked at your avatar recently. Not in a horrible way, just in an amusing make me smile kind of way!

The 18-man field is at it's weakest right now but there are still 6 players + me who know what they're doing:



And yea for you regs, Paha could easily be a purple too but he has annoyed me plenty lately. The guys in yellow I have < 10 games on.

note-machine.

How many 30s run a month post hypers? They are irrelevant so why even bring them up. 15s are going down that road as well and yes 15s when they do run are relatively tough but certainly not as tough as you are portraying them. If we are talking about 18 mans sadly we really should only be talking about 3.5s and 7s because for the most part thats all that actually runs.

why do u think there is such a lack of volume atm?