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2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN 2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN
View Poll Results: The 45th President of the United States of America will be
Hillary
332 46.63%
TRUMP
190 26.69%
In to watch it burn
161 22.61%
Bastard
73 10.25%
im tryin to tell you about ****in my wife in the *** and youre asking me these personal questions
57 8.01%

11-01-2016 , 02:18 PM
I think Clinton is cooked.

best guess is that every email involving both her and Huma over the last ten years or so is on that laptop. Of that amount there's presumably some classified emails that the FBI has seen already (the ones that the FBI identified when they made their decision this summer). She deleted the rest of her (supposedly personal) emails from her server, but obviously didn't have access to this laptop so they'll be on there. so the FBI is going to easily be able to compare which emails she turned over with the ones she didn't. and if there are any they haven't seen before that contain classified information she's going to be in a world of hurt.

of course I could be totally wrong on this but it seems like a very distinct possibility.
11-01-2016 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
HRC is probably going to win and we'll probably dodge Trump and that's nice but unless there are some huge crisis, events, foreign policy stuff, etc. that really change the political culture and dynamics, or HRC/the Democrats are really effective getting out of this feedback loop, I don't see how the next 4 years plays out much differently than the campaign.
Depressing stuff. I've already written off 2020. Just hope we dodge Cruz.
11-01-2016 , 02:27 PM
GB,

There's also a week to the election and over a half million emails to get through.

Which is specifically why the FBI doesn't comment on stuff like this so close to elections because there's no way they make it through all those given they didn't even have a subpoena before making their announcement.
11-01-2016 , 02:27 PM
Can someone cliffs me this whole email thing?

Are the emails organising a child kidney harvesting ring or wat?
11-01-2016 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
GB,

There's also a week to the election and over a half million emails to get through.

Which is specifically why the FBI doesn't comment on stuff like this so close to elections because there's no way they make it through all those given they didn't even have a subpoena before making their announcement.
oh I'm definitely not saying Trump is a lock to be elected (though I think he's much closer to 50% than the 25% Nate has him at).
11-01-2016 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
GB,

There's also a week to the election and over a half million emails to get through.

Which is specifically why the FBI doesn't comment on stuff like this so close to elections because there's no way they make it through all those given they didn't even have a subpoena before making their announcement.
it's extremely clear he was covering his own ass given his testimony this summer. I don't blame him.
11-01-2016 , 02:31 PM
how about the 0% that goofball has him at?
11-01-2016 , 02:32 PM
the New Yorker on Peter Thiel
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The protagonists in [Thiel's] national drama are Trump voters that he, generously, counts as fifty per cent of the American population. The villains are élites in their coastal bubbles of Silicon Valley and Washington, D.C., who “do not intend to tolerate the views of half this country.” These élites, he said, have destroyed our government’s competence. The U.S., he argued, used to do great things like sending people to the moon and building the interstate highway system, but now it can’t do anything right. He supports Donald Trump, he said, because Trump “rejects the false, reassuring stories that tell us everything is fine.”
in other words Thiel identifies culturally as a conservative
the "elites" during a non-conservative's administration are really bad
the good honest Americans support a Republican strongman to fix it all

standard self-absorbed conservative POV
11-01-2016 , 02:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GBP04
I think Clinton is cooked.

best guess is that every email involving both her and Huma over the last ten years or so is on that laptop. Of that amount there's presumably some classified emails that the FBI has seen already (the ones that the FBI identified when they made their decision this summer). She deleted the rest of her (supposedly personal) emails from her server, but obviously didn't have access to this laptop so they'll be on there. so the FBI is going to easily be able to compare which emails she turned over with the ones she didn't. and if there are any they haven't seen before that contain classified information she's going to be in a world of hurt.

of course I could be totally wrong on this but it seems like a very distinct possibility.
Even if true, would that info come out before the election?

The fact there are lots of emails is not really an issue in finding any damning ones. They can just search for the classified ones. I'm sort of assumign they then have to follow quite a lengthy process before we would find out.
11-01-2016 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Can someone cliffs me this whole email thing?

Are the emails organising a child kidney harvesting ring or wat?
haha... depends what you mean by whole thing.

super cliffs are:
-hillary handled classified emails through a private email server (against the rules)
-she then lied about it a bunch of times
-FBI ordered her to hand over all work related emails
-ultimately the FBI director judged that while some of those emails were classified, no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case forth
-a bunch of new emails (650,000) were found on the husband of her right-hand woman's laptop
-if any of those emails contain classified content, and were not turned over to the FBI during the investigation, she is in a problem.
11-01-2016 , 02:38 PM
EMAILS
11-01-2016 , 02:38 PM
if the investigation is not done before she gets into office she cant be prosecued, so doj can just sandbag the whole thing so they cant get it done before this date. problem solved.
11-01-2016 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Even if true, would that info come out before the election?

The fcat therre are lots of emails is not really an issue in findign any damning ones. They can just search for the classified ones. I'm sort of assumign they then have to follow quite a lengthy process before we would find out.
no, I don't think so. and I don't think Comey would really want that either. He's done what's required of him, for now at least (this is ignoring the possibility of a corrupted investigation this summer, which I am not claiming here).

I think the process is going to be very slow, but I still think she's ultimately cooked (impeached).

I seriously doubt Obama has any true allegiance to Hillary (outside of Obamacare, which is imploding - and I'm not using that lightly. I checked today and my premium is scheduled to go from $305 to $489. It's one of the best plans, but all of the rates are skyrocketing. And I fiddled with the income. It's the same for people making as little as $35,000.) It's going to be REALLY interesting to see if he gives her a pardon. Doesn't stop her from being impeached, though.
11-01-2016 , 02:42 PM
I love this fantasy world Right wingers live in where Hillary and Huma have to discuss classified information through email and have no other means of communication with each other.
11-01-2016 , 02:42 PM
Could be nothing but it appears that Reddit is buzzing that Elizabeth Warren unfollowed Hillary on twitter. I'm not sure how the twitters work but looking under Warren's "following" this appears to be true. Ugh. This, whatever this consists of, might actually be happening.
11-01-2016 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by aflametotheground
if the investigation is not done before she gets into office she cant be prosecued, so doj can just sandbag the whole thing so they cant get it done before this date. problem solved.
the guys on her ass about this (chaffetz and gowdy) have been pretty diligent. it's not just going to go away.
11-01-2016 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GBP04
haha... depends what you mean by whole thing.

super cliffs are:
-hillary handled classified emails through a private email server (against the rules)
-she then lied about it a bunch of times
-FBI ordered her to hand over all work related emails
-ultimately the FBI director judged that while some of those emails were classified, no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case forth
-a bunch of new emails (650,000) were found on the husband of her right-hand woman's laptop
-if any of those emails contain classified content, and were not turned over to the FBI during the investigation, she is in a problem.
Is your last line a reference to the SNG instruction video that circulated in 2005-6ish?
11-01-2016 , 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GBP04
no, I don't think so. and I don't think Comey would really want that either. He's done what's required of him, for now at least (this is ignoring the possibility of a corrupted investigation this summer, which I am not claiming here).

I think the process is going to be very slow, but I still think she's ultimately cooked (impeached).

I seriously doubt Obama has any true allegiance to Hillary (outside of Obamacare, which is imploding - and I'm not using that lightly. I checked today and my premium is scheduled to go from $305 to $489. It's one of the best plans, but all of the rates are skyrocketing. And I fiddled with the income. It's the same for people making as little as $35,000.) It's going to be REALLY interesting to see if he gives her a pardon. Doesn't stop her from being impeached, though.
she cant be impeached for matters that took place before she was put into office 20.january, so no.
11-01-2016 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GBP04
-if any of those emails contain classified content, and were not turned over to the FBI during the investigation, she is in a problem.
You should probably clarify who you mean by "she" in this case
11-01-2016 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
Could be nothing but it appears that Reddit is buzzing that Elizabeth Warren unfollowed Hillary on twitter. I'm not sure how the twitters work but looking under Warren's "following" this appears to be true. Ugh. This, whatever this consists of, might actually be happening.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...eMN/story.html

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Progressive heavyweights Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are slated to campaign for Hillary Clinton in the final full week before the general election.

Warren, a US Senator from Massachusetts, on Wednesday will campaign for Senate candidate Catherine Cortez Masto and Democrats up and down the ticket in Carson City and Reno, Nevada, according to the Clinton campaign.
11-01-2016 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GBP04
the guys on her ass about this (chaffetz and gowdy) have been pretty diligent. it's not just going to go away.
I'm not sure "diligent" is the word for wasting years and millions of tax payer dollars trying to smear a political opponent
11-01-2016 , 02:48 PM
Is it just conservatives who get rounded up into FEMA camps or do her useful idiots who do her bidding get rounded up too?

As a Trump fanboy I can accept hildog being elected if SJW liberal snowflakes get rounded up too, then I can at least die happy.
11-01-2016 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
I love this fantasy world Right wingers live in where Hillary and Huma have to discuss classified information through email and have no other means of communication with each other.
You'd think somewhere in their lesbian trysts and plotting to let the Muslim Brotherhood seize the controls of power they'd just verbally tell each other the good classified gossip.
11-01-2016 , 02:49 PM
If Republicans can just figure out a way to read every email ever written and every email yet to be written there must be at least 1 that will send Hillary to prison!
11-01-2016 , 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimmayB
Could be nothing but it appears that Reddit is buzzing that Elizabeth Warren unfollowed Hillary on twitter. I'm not sure how the twitters work but looking under Warren's "following" this appears to be true. Ugh. This, whatever this consists of, might actually be happening.
HUDGE IF TRUE

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