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2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN

View Poll Results: The 45th President of the United States of America will be

Hillary

332 46.63%

TRUMP

190 26.69%

In to watch it burn

161 22.61%

Bastard

73 10.25%

im tryin to tell you about ****in my wife in the *** and youre asking me these personal questions

57 8.01%

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11-02-2016 , 08:58 AM

#42876

master3004

Revisionist Historian

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,462

Quote:

Originally Posted by raradevils

Is this how it's going to go down on Tuesday?

538 is already going with Trump taking Florida, NC, Ohio and Ia. It's close enough to flip NV and NH to the red column.

Having NC a solid red there if wtfbbq levels.

11-02-2016 , 09:00 AM

#42877

rafiki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by revots33

Amazing that we might all be sweating NH next Tuesday to determine the next President.

Is it actually that close right now? Media up here still skewing so hard for Hillary it's hard to know.

11-02-2016 , 09:02 AM

#42878

master3004

Revisionist Historian

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,462

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

African-American early voting turnout is lower this year in NC than in 2012. Interesting article here showing that turnout is lowered most dramatically in counties where the GOP restricted early voting to a single voting site. Will be interesting to see if there's a surge in black voting on election day.

What a shock. It would be weirdly poetic/super gross to have Trump steal this election through actual fraud and disenfranchisement after his puffing his chest about the election being rigged

11-02-2016 , 09:03 AM

#42879

Trolly McTrollson

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NV is all but locked up; Trumps path to victory is WI + NC + the rest and in that case he could actually afford to lose NH so I don't think we're ever sweating NH.

11-02-2016 , 09:06 AM

#42880

master3004

Revisionist Historian

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,462

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

In rara's map, I would make Colorado red, NV blue, NH blue. Tie game, Clinton loses because of the House.

Doesn't polling have CO somewhere in the neighborhood of C +8?

11-02-2016 , 09:09 AM

#42881

Rococo

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Police shootings in Des Moines can only help Trump in Iowa, not that I thought HRC had much chance in Iowa at this point.

I'm bummed no matter what happens at this point. GOP deserved an absolute nut crushing for nominating someone as awful as Trump, and it's not going to happen. Instead, we probably are going to get a narrow HRC victory, and endless claptrap about fraud, no mandate, etc.

I am stunned that Trump has been able to keep his big yapper shut for the last four days.

11-02-2016 , 09:11 AM

#42882

+rep_lol

banned

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 14,900

Quote:

Originally Posted by vixticator

We're gonna need way more violins for the Lilu's and +lol's of the world.

Or, just, like, VR porn.

lol do you just forget how all this started?

-dids says we should feel sorry for huma
-i say lol no thats ******ed for several reasons (more than one person agrees btw)
-vix and dids get upset

so who really needs the violins? and what is VR porn?

11-02-2016 , 09:13 AM

#42883

raradevils

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

Having NC a solid red there if wtfbbq levels.

I just clicked red, doesn't really matter the level of red it is if Trump wins the state. If your going to get nit picky I have Texas likely red when there was a poll out that has him at +13.

11-02-2016 , 09:14 AM

#42884

Rococo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

NV is all but locked up; Trumps path to victory is WI + NC + the rest and in that case he could actually afford to lose NH so I don't think we're ever sweating NH.

This scenario gets 270 for Trump only if he wins the one electoral vote in Maine.

If he wins WI, loses NH, and loses Maine, they tie at 269.

11-02-2016 , 09:15 AM

#42885

master3004

Revisionist Historian

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,462

Quote:

Originally Posted by rafiki

Is it actually that close right now? Media up here still skewing so hard for Hillary it's hard to know.

Rcp has Clinton +5 through sunday. Takes in to account some emailghazigate but not all.

11-02-2016 , 09:15 AM

#42886

awval999

Election Monitor.

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,269

These are Trump's final paths:

All paths include Romney 2012 (this includes NC) + OH + FL + IA.
This is a base of 259 Electoral Votes.

I will assume a 269-269 tie will end with a Trump Presidency.

1. Wisconsin + ME-2: 270
2. Colorado + ME-2: 269
3. Michigan: 275
4. Pennsylvania: 295
5. Nevada + NH + ME-2: 270

These are Trump's only paths to 270 EV.

I ranked them in my own personal order of likelihood.

11-02-2016 , 09:16 AM

#42887

awval999

Election Monitor.

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,269

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rococo

This scenario gets 270 for Trump only if he wins the one electoral vote in Maine.

If he wins WI, loses NH, and loses Maine, they tie at 269.

Which assures him the Presidency.

11-02-2016 , 09:17 AM

#42888

Fatal Checkraise

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,413

"There's no way Trump wins the nomination"

Except he did.

"There's no way Trump wins the election."

???

America, get your **** together please.

11-02-2016 , 09:17 AM

#42889

Rococo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by awval999

Which assures him the Presidency.

I understand.

11-02-2016 , 09:18 AM

#42890

Trolly McTrollson

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Sweating WI is the real pro move atm.

11-02-2016 , 09:19 AM

#42891

master3004

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Why does 270towin have WI as a toss up by default? Post email Friday has polls at C+5.7

11-02-2016 , 09:20 AM

#42892

aflametotheground

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Well said by Obama, this is exactly how i view it too.

11-02-2016 , 09:21 AM

#42893

raradevils

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

NV is all but locked up; Trumps path to victory is WI + NC + the rest and in that case he could actually afford to lose NH so I don't think we're ever sweating NH.

FWIW real clear updated their map from this am and put more grey on the board that were HRC states (Co and Va).

11-02-2016 , 09:23 AM

#42894

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

That isn't exactly what Dids said. He said it was bad she would face extra, unfounded criticism rooted in prejudice because she is a woman born in Saudi Arabia, compared to what a white guy would face. This is inarguably true, and it has happened in this thread already. You then pull out criticism of her that basically never is thrown at a man.

11-02-2016 , 09:24 AM

#42895

master3004

Revisionist Historian

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,462

Quote:

Originally Posted by raradevils

FWIW real clear updated their map from this am and put more grey on the board that were HRC states (Co and Va).

This is including a weird poll out of Nevada having Trump +4 with an even 47-47 split in Vegas which seems pretty lolsie, and 21% of Dems breaking for Trump and 20% of the black vote which is even more lolwortht than the 21 percent dem

11-02-2016 , 09:24 AM

#42896

dessin d'enfant

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 13ball

NC has more college educated voters than people might realize, which would be a reason to think Clinton could win despite lagging behind Obama's 2012 early voting pace.

I think of all the states, its had the best demographics shift from 08/12 to 16 for Clinton. More minorities and people with college degrees. Against a standard Republican it might not even be in play for HRC though.

11-02-2016 , 09:25 AM

#42897

simplicitus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HastenDan

Would be nice to hear at least a little lip service about the coming AI/automation revolution the world is on the cusp of and how many jobs are going to be obsolete within the next ten years.

Need that universal basic income. #socialistDan

Here's a link to a pdf of a report on AI, "PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE
OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE," issued by the White House Nat'l Science and Technology Council a few weeks ago. Hillary may have even read it (probably not, but some of her staff have). Trump has likely never heard of AI. https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/def...ture_of_ai.pdf

11-02-2016 , 09:25 AM

#42898

Lilu7

Made 2+2 Great Again

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 2,123

need... more... Adanthar... please

11-02-2016 , 09:27 AM

#42899

simplicitus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyLloyd

Honestly, the email stuff is bad just because it screams carelessness, incompetence and a willingness to ignore due process. I agree the Republicans are pushing way too hard into fantasy realm on the whole thing. But I'd be fired from my job for handling work emails in such a fashion, and rightly so.

And if you acted like Trump you'd be serving consecutive life sentences.