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Old 11-07-2013, 08:25 PM   #1701
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Not sure about others, but, I vote that we let this dog die and close/lock this thread.

Have no side / interest in either party. Admit it has been interesting reading most of the 1600+ posts, but seems like we are at the point where only bashing & rehashing goes on.

Parties involved seemed satisfied. IMO Move on to another juicy NVG topic...

P.S. just realized the exception to this would be for unpaid parties (Sheets, Assani etc) post when they get paid back...
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:25 PM   #1702
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young - resolved (post 497&503)...then not (post 656)...then is (post 1

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Great post.

If it makes anyone feel better, I really really really wish I had never gotten involved in this thread, and totally want those hours of my life back.

If anyone here has secretly invented a time machine, PM me. My bookie will pay you for it.

That is all.
Well we can't always back winners.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:27 PM   #1703
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young - resolved (post 497&503)...then not (post 656)...then is (post 1

bundy-

why do you have 50+ posts in this thread? you post the same opinion every five hours. we get your position on this topic...
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:36 PM   #1704
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young - resolved (post 497&503)...then not (post 656)...then is (post 1

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Old 11-07-2013, 08:36 PM   #1705
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young - resolved (post 497&503)...then not (post 656)...then is (post 1

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bundy-

why do you have 100+ posts in this thread? you post the same opinion every five hours. we get your position on this topic...
FYP.

105, to be exact...soon to be 106, I'm sure.

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Hey, why let someone bow out graciously when we can try to get the arguments going again, amirite?
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:43 PM   #1706
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FYP.

105, to be exact...soon to be 106, I'm sure.
Yep

Well if I see something to be untrue, illogical or unreasonable of course I'm going to say something and it only looks heavily skewed in my favour in terms of the number of posts I have made because of the simple fact that the majority of posters on this thread are pro-MM supporters, so I've had a lot to respond to.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:44 PM   #1707
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Hey, why let someone bow out graciously when we can try to get the arguments going again, amirite?
Well he did take a very heavy line of attack to JY re. his restaurant which I thought was inappropriate so perhaps he shouldn't get that right?
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:46 PM   #1708
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Yep

Well if I see something to be untrue, illogical or unreasonable of course I'm going to say something and it only looks heavily skewed in my favour in terms of the number of posts I have made because of the simple fact that the majority of posters on this thread are pro-MM supporters, so I've had a lot to respond to.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:29 PM   #1709
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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Chris, JY texted me and said he already sent the checks and that he would rather pay me in installments as we had outlined than have you pay for him. So I guess don't pay me(so long as these payments from him come as expected).

Wait, why are you not getting it ALL up front?


CHRIS, send this man his monies and deduct it from what you're sending Jason.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:13 PM   #1710
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Yep

Well if I see something to be untrue, illogical or unreasonable of course I'm going to say something and it only looks heavily skewed in my favour in terms of the number of posts I have made because of the simple fact that the majority of posters on this thread are pro-MM supporters, so I've had a lot to respond to.
Your posts are almost exactly the same - JYoung did no wrong and MM was the bad guy.

We get it - it's to the point now where as soon as I see your name on here I skip over to the next post.

Please, enough.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:20 PM   #1711
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moneymaker should be a politician the way he flip flops
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:52 PM   #1712
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Chris, JY texted me and said he already sent the checks and that he would rather pay me in installments as we had outlined than have you pay for him. So I guess don't pay me(so long as these payments from him come as expected).
????????????????????????????? tear the checks up. MM, pay assani his money and deduct it from jy
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:00 AM   #1713
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young - resolved (post 497&503)...then not (post 656)...then is (post 1

In b4, then see post #2143
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:04 AM   #1714
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In b4, then see post #2143
Awesome .
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:16 AM   #1715
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Stop trying to extort money from MM... wtf? Assanis' business is with Jason Young... wtf with the beggar pests?

Start another thread if Assani doesn't get paid FCOL


Not trying to be a dick Assani, but using this thread to get money from a person ( increasingly more obv. because of his celebrity) that your wager had nothing to do with is getting old imo.

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Old 11-08-2013, 12:48 AM   #1716
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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Chris, JY texted me and said he already sent the checks and that he would rather pay me in installments as we had outlined than have you pay for him. So I guess don't pay me(so long as these payments from him come as expected).
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Wait, why are you not getting it ALL up front?
CHRIS, send this man his monies and deduct it from what you're sending Jason.
FFS this.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:48 AM   #1717
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:51 AM   #1718
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No. You are right. Give Jason "I can't pay 2k so i have to send $25 checks a week to pay off an 18 month debt" Young all the money and let him dole it out. I wouldn't trust Jason Young with $5 at this point.
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:16 AM   #1719
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Not gonna argue andrew, faded from this thread for a reason... nothing at all to do with being associated with either of these two.

This thread is silly MM sided. Barely sniffs objectivity imho. More resembles a stupid thread with some post count jockies (and others), going to bat for someone because of his celebrity. Proly a bit to do with an "Oh yeah, I talk to Chris Moneymaker...blah blah whatever else" brag to their non poker buddies...

Talk about fanboys.
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:37 AM   #1720
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Assani gonna get paid.

Wouldnt be surprised if the kid sent Assani payment in full.

Quite frankly, that really is what should be done. At least by a person whos "on the right track" with a young biz and new family life and about to get a 5 figure windfall.

Its the right thing to do at this point
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:14 AM   #1721
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Not gonna argue andrew, faded from this thread for a reason... nothing at all to do with being associated with either of these two.

This thread is silly MM sided. Barely sniffs objectivity imho. More resembles a stupid thread with some post count jockies (and others), going to bat for someone because of his celebrity. Proly a bit to do with an "Oh yeah, I talk to Chris Moneymaker...blah blah whatever else" brag to their non poker buddies...

Talk about fanboys.
I think the people itt who were not defending MM as much as they were doubting JY side of the story noting that he was in debt to at least three others for relative small amounts over several months however MM hasn't come off well either and from what I'm seeing the ones who felt JY was in the wrong are now upset with MM flip flopping this does not come across to me as fanboying (which I guess anyone doesn't take JY side are going to be called),

I think it's rather pointless and petty continue to antagonize and drive up more drama even after JY got the concessions from MM he was after.

The best thing to come of this thread is it looks likely that Assani and sheets will be made whole.

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Old 11-08-2013, 02:29 AM   #1722
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I see/saw it more attack Jason, mildly make MM aware of his gambling problem. Really kinda confused why it wasnt more burn the **** at the stake because thats usually what society does with celebs that slip up imo. Especially with all info in this and other thread. Thats why I use fanboy.

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Old 11-08-2013, 02:36 AM   #1723
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FTR, Im not trying for more drama. Im not meaning to come off like that if I am... and Im getting tired.
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:43 AM   #1724
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FTR, Im not trying for more drama. Im not meaning to come off like that if I am... and Im getting tired.
It is tiring I can agree with you that it would be best to let this rather disappointing thread just die.
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:44 AM   #1725
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young - resolved (post 497&503)...then not (post 656)...then is (post 1

Sorry it took me so long to post in the thread as a follow up.

Obviously Chris feels he was supplied sufficient information to decide to pay JY, so what I wanted to say means next to nothing at this point.

I went in to visit Jason at his place Tuesday afternoon. He showed me some texts from his phone from the supposed "boss", along with dates corroborating his chain of events. I saw a site mentioned by name, and JY asking him why the site was down at random times, and other small tidbits which would clearly show that there was someone else pulling the strings. I saw plenty of std excuses from the "boss" when JY questioned some settling. "I have a funeral out of town" amongst others, which are typical run of the mill excuses when someone is avoiding someone.

Having no real incentive to take JY's side, I believe he was telling the truth and was not freerolling here. To be transparent, I've known Jason as we went to high school together. We were never close, infact at least one of my friends got in a fistfight with him on more than one occasion.

I don't play poker, nor am in any of the pro players circles, but I have done business with a couple and have a rock solid rep in the sports betting section here. I know the whole situation was kinda shady, but I am satisfied with what I saw to believe JY did nothing in the wrong. Just glad the situation was resolved for all parties.
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