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Old 11-01-2013, 08:46 PM   #1201
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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BTW, for any clowns in the NY area who are planning to go to the restaurant and screw with them because of Jason, don't.

Jason, by his own admission, is just an investor. He doesn't outright own it.

We don't know how much he owns, but I bet it's a small percentage, unless he inherited it or something.

You can own less than 1% and still legally call yourself an "owner".

He said something about working 110 hours per week, but I bet if you called there at a different random time all seven days this upcoming week, and asked for him, he wouldn't be there.

I have no information to back this up, but it's just a vibe I'm getting.
Again lol at you ever considering yourself to be a possible private arbitrator in this matter
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:48 PM   #1202
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

There are busts that happen every so often. And almost every time, some deadbeat operating a book will hear about it and will then try and use that as an excuse as to why they are late on paying or try and stiff a player that is up. Any old idiot can get a site set up and become a bookie in a matter of days. Dozens of fly by night operations that are nothing but guys looking for a freeroll. It is really difficult to tie one particular guy to any specific outfit.

You are right that it is very doubtful any names, numbers, or site urls are going to be thrown out in the open.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:49 PM   #1203
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C'mon fer Heavens sake!! I know there are some better sluthes on this forum than what has been present.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:53 PM   #1204
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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I am not one-sided in that I had no bias toward either party. I don't know Jason, and I am not friends with Chris.
You can be one-sided even being neutral to the parties. For instance and this is just my observation but I believe it is pretty damming on your credibility to appear impartial that your position re. this whole matter did not change one bit with the release of those messages by JY.

Someone who does have a relative degree of intellect and logic that I have seen in some of your posts would have looked at the chronology of the events supplied in MM's posts (particularly his OP) and compared it to the real indisputable facts (which are the texts) and come to the conclusion that something just doesn't add up in MM's rebuff of JY.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:55 PM   #1205
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There are busts that happen every so often. And almost every time, some deadbeat operating a book will hear about it and will then try and use that as an excuse as to why they are late on paying or try and stiff a player that is up. Any old idiot can get a site set up and become a bookie in a matter of days. Dozens of fly by night operations that are nothing but guys looking for a freeroll. It is really difficult to tie one particular guy to any specific outfit.

You are right that it is very doubtful any names, numbers, or site urls are going to be thrown out in the open.
Good point

Previously considered btw
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:56 PM   #1206
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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Again lol at you ever considering yourself to be a possible private arbitrator in this matter
I said a long time ago in this thread that I wouldn't be a suitable arbitrator at this point, so you might as well stop saying that.

I offered at the very beginning before I had developed that strong of an opinion as to what was going on. At this point, obviously I do have a strong opinion, so I would be a poor choice as arbitrator.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:02 PM   #1207
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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I said a long time ago in this thread that I wouldn't be a suitable arbitrator at this point, so you might as well stop saying that.

I offered at the very beginning before I had developed that strong of an opinion as to what was going on. At this point, obviously I do have a strong opinion, so I would be a poor choice as arbitrator.
It suggests to me that you had a pre-conceived notion of bias against JY given what has gone on in this thread. Sorry.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:03 PM   #1208
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

I swear Webster is going to say **** it and just go ahead and file "your" right next to "ain't" in the dictionary before too long.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:11 PM   #1209
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I swear Webster is going to say **** it and just go ahead and file "your" right next to "ain't" in the dictionary before too long.
Why is this text not deleted?
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:15 PM   #1210
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It suggests to me that you had a pre-conceived notion of bias against JY given what has gone on in this thread.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:28 PM   #1211
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

Not sure why the recent hate on KiloWatt - he has enough "cred" in the poker world imo to make some reasonable analysis.

I think that Assani SHOULD BE PAID ASAP, either by MM or Jason.

Chris owes Assani from saving him 15k that he was going to send Jason and imo it would be a nice gesture on his part to reward Assani.

ASSANI CHANGED THE WHOLE DYNAMIC OF THIS THREAD - REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE!!!
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:43 PM   #1212
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

Posting from phone...

There is a slight holdup with the transfer, might need one of the other trusted volunteers to collect the money for me. Jason made a good legit effort though, and it's understandable that this will take til tomorrow since its Friday night and we r all busy.

Also since I've hurt his cause a bit, I will definitely note that this interaction was 100% pleasant and he has done a very good job of setting up a payment plan. I think its likely that I will be paid in a timely manner by him.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:47 PM   #1213
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Its like Christmas when I hit refresh and there's another page or 2 that I haven't read yet.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:48 PM   #1214
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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Posting from phone...

There is a slight holdup with the transfer, might need one of the other trusted volunteers to collect the money for me. Jason made a good legit effort though, and it's understandable that this will take til tomorrow since its Friday night and we r all busy.

Also since I've hurt his cause a bit, I will definitely note that this interaction was 100% pleasant and he has done a very good job of setting up a payment plan. I think its likely that I will be paid in a timely manner by him.
I will volunteer to help collect for you. If you agree, tell Jason so he can contact me and I will send him the details for payment.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:49 PM   #1215
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

christ any of the biggish banks will let you take a photo of a check w/ your phone to deposit it, this is not a real world issue and just sounds like typical more slow pay bull**** excuses.

50k posts between the two of you on an internet forum, you were/are both professional gamblers or at the very least entrepreneurs and you can't figure out a way to transfer 2200$? You've never done this before?

lol. good luck.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:50 PM   #1216
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I will volunteer to help collect for you. If you agree, tell Jason so he can contact me and I will send him the details for payment.
Jason hates you but it would be nice for him to use you to facilitate the transfer.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:53 PM   #1217
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Recent hate on Kilowatt? Have you seen his jacket twirling abilities? Drooling clowns be jealous obv!
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:55 PM   #1218
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Am now convinced it was 2 percent Assani's fault he didn't get paid earlier.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:56 PM   #1220
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Jason hates you but it would be nice for him to use you to facilitate the transfer.
Yeah I don't care how he feels about me. Hopefully he can put those feelings aside, too. Would just like to help Assani and anyone else get paid if possible.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:00 PM   #1221
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

I think we all should be sent $2200 for the 82 pages of hideousness that we've endured.


Get tossing that salad, Jason, you're paying for my Christmas beak.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:15 PM   #1222
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I will volunteer to help collect for you. If you agree, tell Jason so he can contact me and I will send him the details for payment.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:18 PM   #1223
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Clever/funny... and not far from an accurate discription +1


Wp sir
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:21 PM   #1224
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Re: moneymaker vs jason young (resolved - see post 497 & 503...and then not - see post 656)

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Posting from phone...

There is a slight holdup with the transfer, might need one of the other trusted volunteers to collect the money for me. Jason made a good legit effort though, and it's understandable that this will take til tomorrow since its Friday night and we r all busy.

Also since I've hurt his cause a bit, I will definitely note that this interaction was 100% pleasant and he has done a very good job of setting up a payment plan. I think its likely that I will be paid in a timely manner by him.
Huh????

So you are not getting the full 2k???? WTF is this? He's a HS baller, who owns a restaurant, bets tens of thousands of dollars on sports, vouches as a agent, fronts a credit line for MM, lets him rollover 5k without permission from the alleged bookie, is taking more bets in October, and he cant scrape up 2 ****ing thousand dollars from somewhere for the last year??? Holy bejebbuz, I probably have 10 bucks in quarters in my couch cushions. Will that help you out? Is Jerry Lewis still alive???? I swear to allah, that he should have a ****ing telethon for degenerate gamblers. Live Aid, Feed Africa, Farm Aid. Yeah, they are all great, but they cant hold a candle to these ****ing degen stories on 2+2.

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Old 11-01-2013, 10:22 PM   #1225
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Wow, you hate him now too???

I am pretty confident he won't steal the money, lol.
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