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Old 12-12-2020, 08:15 PM   #12551
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Who is "We" ?

And since you filed the anti-SLAPP, can you post your key pertinent PDFs here since its public record anyway?
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Old 12-12-2020, 11:25 PM   #12552
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- Mike Postle's attorney has filed a motion to be dismissed as counsel, claiming Postle violated their agreement, and that he also hasn't been in contact with them since November 3. The hearing for this change will be on January 14.

- We filed an anti-SLAPP motion to get the case dismissed, which would automatically award us attorney's fees (likely 5 figures) if granted. This will be heard on February 10.

- It is possible Postle will not have an attorney for this Feb 10 anti-SLAPP hearing, which will be great for us, obviously.

- We will be aggressively collecting any judgment we receive regarding the attorney's fees, even if it takes years.

- Even if Postle drops the case now, he will still have to face this anti-SLAPP, since it has been filed already.
I don't see how this vindictiveness helps his daughter, which is a real issue no one seems to consider. Leave that family alone.
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Old 12-13-2020, 12:22 AM   #12553
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you are correct that conspiracy is a separate crime which only requires the parties to take a substantial step towards completing their criminal plan. However, even when the crime is actually committed those involved are usually charged with both the conspiracy and the underlying criminal offense.
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It could be that a person can only be convicted of one or the other, though even if that is true in one jurisdiction, it might not be true in another.
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Old 12-13-2020, 12:28 AM   #12554
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I don't see how this vindictiveness helps his daughter, which is a real issue no one seems to consider. Leave that family alone.
Some of the defendants he's suing have families. Some of the people he cheated out of their money had families. No sympathy for them?
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Old 12-13-2020, 01:01 AM   #12555
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Some of the defendants he's suing have families. Some of the people he cheated out of their money had families. No sympathy for them?
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Old 12-13-2020, 10:46 AM   #12556
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I don't see how this vindictiveness helps his daughter, which is a real issue no one seems to consider. Leave that family alone.
wtf are you on about man? why would anyone consider that as an issue? This ****ing idiot cheated for a long time, and then had the balls to sue the people that rightfully accused him of cheating, maybe he should have considered that before he started this dumb **** lawsuit

unless you're trolling, in which case, brilliant
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Old 12-13-2020, 12:29 PM   #12557
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In this example, you are Mac?
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Old 12-13-2020, 12:31 PM   #12558
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I don't see how this vindictiveness helps his daughter, which is a real issue no one seems to consider. Leave that family alone.
Daughter is irrelevant to the parties victimized by Mike Postle, as she should be. She is just unfortunate to have a father who choose to get through life by cheating and ended up getting caught.
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Old 12-13-2020, 09:26 PM   #12559
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In this example, you are Mac?
no, I'm just playing both sides so I come out on top
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Old 12-14-2020, 01:09 AM   #12560
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As far as I understand, the cases against Postle, Stones etc. were dismissed because it was impossible to proceed based on the judge's ruling and some plaintiffs would rather they be dismissed than take the tiny settlement with the language in it.

Not sure if Postle's suit will backfire, as no one has been served and it has been put on hold due to the virus. Not sure if the intention was to ever serve anyone or really proceed with the case.

I am not an expert, but responding to some things that seem off base.
No. It was dismissed, with prejudice, because no one filed an amended complaint. Why that did not occur is a different issue.

The settlement with Stones was prior to the dismissal and was not with Postle. I have no idea about "acceptance" requirements.

Now the players get nothing from Postle from their case.
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Old 12-14-2020, 10:29 AM   #12561
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No. It was dismissed, with prejudice, because no one filed an amended complaint. Why that did not occur is a different issue.

The settlement with Stones was prior to the dismissal and was not with Postle. I have no idea about "acceptance" requirements.

Now the players get nothing from Postle from their case.
Which players? All of them or just the ones that were dismissed via this last motion
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Old 12-14-2020, 01:04 PM   #12562
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Some of the defendants he's suing have families. Some of the people he cheated out of their money had families. No sympathy for them?
Personally I don't think you should bring money to the table you can't afford to burn.

But that aside, the families aren't going to see any money. Once the lawyers take their cut and the accountants figure out who gets what, it's gone.

Likely the assets in play are small to none. So you're hoping to get 25% of his income over minimum wage, BUT after taxes, fica, and certain other deductions required by law.

This is about vegence. Not money. And a little girl will suffer because people won't let **** go.
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Old 12-14-2020, 01:29 PM   #12563
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"However, I beseech you for both on behalf of my daughter."

"*****, you can stop right there."

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Old 12-14-2020, 01:42 PM   #12564
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Personally I don't think you should bring money to the table you can't afford to burn.
That makes it OK to cheat?

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This is about vegence. Not money.
Nothing wrong with a little vengeance. You want to use the courts to bully people don't be surprised if it comes back to you.

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And a little girl will suffer because people won't let **** go.
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Old 12-14-2020, 01:48 PM   #12565
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Inmyrav, how many accounts are needed to divide Postle’s non-existing paycheck by one? Just lol at your recent posts.
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Old 12-14-2020, 02:30 PM   #12566
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I don't see how this vindictiveness helps his daughter, which is a real issue no one seems to consider. Leave that family alone.
Next time you get robbed make sure to let the judge know you don't want the criminal getting sentenced because they have a kid...
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Old 12-14-2020, 02:42 PM   #12567
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...This is about justice. Not money. And a little girl will suffer because her father is a con artist.
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Old 12-16-2020, 11:58 PM   #12568
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Next time you get robbed make sure to let the judge know you don't want the criminal getting sentenced because they have a kid...
I think this happens for real in Portland , OR.
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Old 12-17-2020, 01:20 AM   #12569
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And me as the juror sitting next to you: what kind of lottery is this in which 50 straight wins is only a 1-in-trillion shot? The probability of winning a coin flip 50 straight times by chance is upwards of one in 1.1 quadrillion.



But yeah, totally agree... for everyone saying versions of "there is no evidence," the results ARE evidence. They might not show HOW someone did it, but they sure as hell show THAT they did it.

Of course, I don't know enough about the actual charges that would levied against such a cheater to know if such evidence could lead to a conviction. You legal eagles, when it comes to criminal trial law: to what extent does the prosecution have to show HOW the defendant did it?
where can i see this "evidence" ? and please don't point me in the direction of some shitty ingram/polk vids
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Old 12-17-2020, 01:37 PM   #12570
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Which players? All of them or just the ones that were dismissed via this last motion
You could pose that question to their attorney. (I did notice Veronica Brill did jump ship, without prejudice, before the dismissal of the remaining plaintiffs' claims with prejudice.)

I am not representing anyone in either the original case versus Postle or the case by Postle versus various media types.

As for substantive law generally re poker, keep in mind that a player recovery for gambling losses versus a cheater is likely more problematic than a recovery seeking rake and fees paid to an operator who failed to detect/stop cheating.
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Old 12-17-2020, 05:26 PM   #12571
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where can i see this "evidence" ? and please don't point me in the direction of some shitty ingram/polk vids
You are Mike “hatstuffer” Postle?
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Old 12-17-2020, 05:56 PM   #12572
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where can i see this "evidence" ? and please don't point me in the direction of some shitty ingram/polk vids
Wait, why not the so-called "shitty Ingram/Polk vids?" All they did is replay existing footage from the Stones Live archives – footage that still resides there for public viewing. But if I was to stipulate that the videos on those two channels are off-limits, there is also analysis by Andreas Froehli, Jonathan Little, Jeff Boski and Bart Hanson. Are those out of play, too? Is something not admissible for the purposes of this discussion simply because you don't like the result?

Anyway, if you want the evidence, here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/c/StonesLivePoker/videos

That's evidence. It's not parsed, there are no conclusions or suggestions made, but it's evidence.
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Old 12-17-2020, 06:25 PM   #12573
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where can i see this "evidence" ? and please don't point me in the direction of some shitty ingram/polk vids
It seems there are different definitions of "evidence" here. Some people are pointing to improbability as evidence, which is not the kind of evidence that can be used in court.

Also, it's very suspicious that he was looking at the phone hidden from view in his lap, during play. Again, not useful in court, since we don't what he was actually looking at.

These things are the kind of evidence that gets a person banned from poker tables, though.

One problem is that the issue went public on the internet before there was an opportunity for authorities to investigate and catch him in the act.

This leads to a bigger issue -- is there really no better avenue than Instagram to expose something like this? Veronica Brill said she and others approached casino management and got brushed off. What can a person do in that situation? Isn't there some place to report it?
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Old 12-17-2020, 06:55 PM   #12574
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You can call professional poker players as expert witnesses and use their testimony as evidence.
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Old 12-17-2020, 07:07 PM   #12575
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It seems there are different definitions of "evidence" here. Some people are pointing to improbability as evidence, which is not the kind of evidence that can be used in court.

Also, it's very suspicious that he was looking at the phone hidden from view in his lap, during play. Again, not useful in court, since we don't what he was actually looking at.
What court do you preside over, Your Honor?

The phone hidden in the lap is the modus operandi by which someone at the table had the potential to access information on other player's hole cards being collected by the live stream. Couple it with the god mode play and win rate and you've got circumstantial evidence for cheating.

There are reasons why most poker rooms do not allow the use of electronic devices by players while they are involved in a hand that are clearly in play here.

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