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Michael Borovetz, I believe he tried to scam me at McCarran Airport 6-22-14 Michael Borovetz, I believe he tried to scam me at McCarran Airport 6-22-14

08-20-2014 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by kevko_2000
This is a legit idea. If it's no big deal then the judge won't care...
While I applaud the intention, a judge probably isn't going to read an ex-parte letter written by somebody not involved in the case. Now a victim of Borovetz (like the guy who's friend got scammed at JFK), actually pointing this thread out to the police/prosecutors is a different story.
08-20-2014 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mchine
He said he hadn't eaten in two days and that I could go with him to watch him eat.
I bet you didn't even check that he wasn't using it for Pai Gow.
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Originally Posted by mchine
Anyway, I gave him ten bucks because I felt sorry for him and thought that by doing something nice for a stranger that I might get good luck in the tournament. Well, the good luck part didn't work
I think the first part ensured the second.
08-20-2014 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerFan2008
I said many post ago with Mike banned and not posting, leaving this thread open it would only leave trolls posting to trolls. this is what I mean...
You say that like it's a bad thing.
08-20-2014 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish Taco
A bunch of cars in my neighborhood got stuff taken out of them last night. The people didn't break into anything they just went around looking for unlocked cars and found plenty.
How do you know the cars were unlocked?
08-20-2014 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_seboks_luck
This isn't true at all. The most frequent crime most British drug addicts engage in is shoplifting, and they rarely escalate.
Like Mike, they've found a crime that (at least in England) has very few serious consequences associated with it.
08-20-2014 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
While I applaud the intention, a judge probably isn't going to read an ex-parte letter written by somebody not involved in the case. Now a victim of Borovetz (like the guy who's friend got scammed at JFK), actually pointing this thread out to the police/prosecutors is a different story.
It's just funny that all these people keep saying it's no big deal... It's a victimless crime or the people deserved it or whatever... That it's a legal loophole that they will never prosecute because it isn't really a crime...

But then when someone recommends sharing all of the info and confessions from Mike here in the thread they are attacked for being a snitch or told to mind their own business.

If it's no big deal then who cares? Nothing is going to happen to Mike if it is indeed a legal loophole. It would be a definitive answer to that whole argument.
08-20-2014 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kevko_2000
It's just funny that all these people keep saying it's no big deal... It's a victimless crime or the people deserved it or whatever... That it's a legal loophole that they will never prosecute because it isn't really a crime...

But then when someone recommends sharing all of the info and confessions from Mike here in the thread they are attacked for being a snitch or told to mind their own business.

If it's no big deal then who cares? Nothing is going to happen to Mike if it is indeed a legal loophole. It would be a definitive answer to that whole argument.
I don't think you get it. The honorable people on this thread want Mike to stop scamming and get a job and become a productive member of the community. The less than honorable people want to bully Mike, call him names and cause him legal issues beyond what he already has.
08-20-2014 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mchine
I don't think you get it. The honorable people on this thread want Mike to stop scamming and get a job and become a productive member of the community.
[X] naivete
08-20-2014 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kevko_2000
It's just funny that all these people keep saying it's no big deal... It's a victimless crime or the people deserved it or whatever... That it's a legal loophole that they will never prosecute because it isn't really a crime...

But then when someone recommends sharing all of the info and confessions from Mike here in the thread they are attacked for being a snitch or told to mind their own business.

If it's no big deal then who cares? Nothing is going to happen to Mike if it is indeed a legal loophole. It would be a definitive answer to that whole argument.
That is a good point.
08-20-2014 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mchine
I don't think you get it. The honorable people on this thread want Mike to stop scamming and get a job and become a productive member of the community. The less than honorable people want to bully Mike, call him names and cause him legal issues beyond what he already has.
But mchine, if his actions do not constitute a crime, and he will never be prosecuted for them, and this thread could never be used as evidence against him, then why are you so concerned with people notifying law enforcement about this thread?
08-20-2014 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
But mchine, if his actions do not constitute a crime, and he will never be prosecuted for them, and this thread could never be used as evidence against him, then why are you so concerned with people notifying law enforcement about this thread?
It just doesnt seem right to try to intentionally harm someone for no reason orher than possible amusement.
08-20-2014 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mchine
It just doesnt seem right to try to intentionally harm someone for no reason orher than possible amusement.
But mchine, if his actions do not constitute a crime, and he will never be prosecuted for them, and this thread could never be used as evidence against him, then why are you so concerned with people notifying law enforcement about this thread?
08-21-2014 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jman220
But mchine, if his actions do not constitute a crime, and he will never be prosecuted for them, and this thread could never be used as evidence against him, then why are you so concerned with people notifying law enforcement about this thread?
I am not super concerned about it, but even if there as a small chance that it could harm Mike, I do not think it is the right thing to do. I feel like positve suggestions and encouragement to go straight are the best ways to help Mike now.
08-21-2014 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jman220
But mchine, if his actions do not constitute a crime, and he will never be prosecuted for them, and this thread could never be used as evidence against him, then why are you so concerned with people notifying law enforcement about this thread?
Wait aren't you the same guy who didn't know that defrauding an innkeeper was a crime? Someone earlier called you out on that and you never responded I think. I have read some of this thread and skimmed other parts because it is way too long for me but you are 1 of the people who have posted in it nonstop. Pardon me if you have already said this but what are your qualifications?? Everyone on here seems to have given you the benefit of the doubt that you have/had a career in law enforcement so what have you done?? Your posts seem to be all over the place and since you didn't know that defrauding an innkeeper is a crime in New York I think you are full of ****. Prove me wrong jman.

I guess that is the nice thing about message boards. Anyone can come on and claim to be this and that and most gullible people believe them. So with that being said jman I am a brain surgeon by day, an intellectual property lawyer at night and on the weekends I fly around Asia and work with the peace corps. Don't ask me about my qualifications because this is a message board but I can write with the best of them, just like you. If I had to guess about you you probably were some kind of security supervisor at like a Target or Sears or something like that huh?? Am I getting warmer?? You had lots of interactions with police officers due to shoplifters and stolen credit cards so naturally that made you a message board expert on all things scams. Just a hunch I am right but I guess we will never know. Definitely interesting thread though.
08-21-2014 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by frogprotection
Pardon me if you have already said this but what are your qualifications??
He is a former mod that disagreed with jamie and professionalpoker's choice to leave this thread open to satisfy the insatiable hunger of mike to feed off the sympathy he was getting which ultimately led him to offend again. Enough said.
08-21-2014 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
He is a former mod that disagreed with jamie and professionalpoker's choice to leave this thread open to satisfy the insatiable hunger of mike to feed off the sympathy he was getting which ultimately led him to offend again. Enough said.
Well you didn't come close to answering the question and furthermore I was asking jman. Based on his dozens and dozens of posts it would seem to me that he didn't want this thread shutdown at all. In this thread at least he gets to pretend he is an important law enforcement fellow and it seems to have worked. On a different topic and maybe I'm missing something but why is this thread still even open?? Isn't the summary that Mike will be staked to play some tournaments, doublejoker will hold all significant winnings and when Mike is broke again he will be back at an airport to get money. Am I missing anything else??
08-21-2014 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by frogprotection
Well you didn't come close to answering the question and furthermore I was asking jman. Based on his dozens and dozens of posts it would seem to me that he didn't want this thread shutdown at all. In this thread at least he gets to pretend he is an important law enforcement fellow and it seems to have worked. On a different topic and maybe I'm missing something but why is this thread still even open?? Isn't the summary that Mike will be staked to play some tournaments, doublejoker will hold all significant winnings and when Mike is broke again he will be back at an airport to get money. Am I missing anything else??
No you are right it should be closed.

I'm sure, and although I think mike has rejoined in another reincarnation of himself, he is still getting a lot of satisfaction reading all these posts in a thread about him.

As for jman and despite not paying much attention recently to what he has had to say, he can post all he wants if he is correcting the record.
08-21-2014 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by frogprotection
Wait aren't you the same guy who didn't know that defrauding an innkeeper was a crime? Someone earlier called you out on that and you never responded I think. I have read some of this thread and skimmed other parts because it is way too long for me but you are 1 of the people who have posted in it nonstop. Pardon me if you have already said this but what are your qualifications?? Everyone on here seems to have given you the benefit of the doubt that you have/had a career in law enforcement so what have you done?? Your posts seem to be all over the place and since you didn't know that defrauding an innkeeper is a crime in New York I think you are full of ****. Prove me wrong jman.

I guess that is the nice thing about message boards. Anyone can come on and claim to be this and that and most gullible people believe them. So with that being said jman I am a brain surgeon by day, an intellectual property lawyer at night and on the weekends I fly around Asia and work with the peace corps. Don't ask me about my qualifications because this is a message board but I can write with the best of them, just like you. If I had to guess about you you probably were some kind of security supervisor at like a Target or Sears or something like that huh?? Am I getting warmer?? You had lots of interactions with police officers due to shoplifters and stolen credit cards so naturally that made you a message board expert on all things scams. Just a hunch I am right but I guess we will never know. Definitely interesting thread though.
Hello,

You've got me, I'm not a prosecutor, I'm a security guard and making the whole thing up, notwithstanding my earlier offer to prove who I am to an admin (not outing my personal information to everyone else), and further notwithstanding that Mat Sklansky already has my real personal information from when I was a mod. Also, there is no crime in the New York State Penal Law titled "defrauding an innkeeper." The fact that that form of larceny is colloquially referred to as "defrauding an inkeeper" in New York City is something I wasn't aware of, as I don't practice there, and I long ago admitted I was wrong about that.

Also, hi Mike, how's the airport scamming going?

Regards,
--jman220

Edit: Also, I thought this thread should be closed back when I had a legitimate worry based on the tone of the posting that it might cause Mike to do something bad like harm himself, ie: the Brandi Hawbaker thread. Since that time however Mike has shown that he doesn't reallly care and is just a career criminal, so I don't really have that concern anymore, honestly I think he enjoys this thread and it's been a high point and 15 minutes of fame in an otherwise really pathetic life.
08-21-2014 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jman220
Hello,

You've got me, I'm not a prosecutor, I'm a security guard and making the whole thing up, notwithstanding my earlier offer to prove who I am to an admin (not outing my personal information to everyone else), and further notwithstanding that Mat Sklansky already has my real personal information from when I was a mod. Also, there is no crime in the New York State Penal Law titled "defrauding an innkeeper." The fact that that form of larceny is colloquially referred to as "defrauding an inkeeper" in New York City is something I wasn't aware of, as I don't practice there, and I long ago admitted I was wrong about that.

Also, hi Mike, how's the airport scamming going?

Regards,
--jman220
When all else fails just go back to the hi Mike line huh?? Okay Mr. Prosecutor I guess I can't recommend you for the promotion to detective since you whiffed on me being Mike. Did I tell you I am also your boss?? On message boards we can have lots of professions. Oh by the way, you're docked 2 weeks pay. Now go report for traffic duty.
08-21-2014 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by autodafe20
How do you know the cars were unlocked?
Why is that relevant in this thread?



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Originally Posted by frogprotection
When all else fails just go back to the hi Mike line huh?? Okay Mr. Prosecutor I guess I can't recommend you for the promotion to detective since you whiffed on me being Mike. Did I tell you I am also your boss?? On message boards we can have lots of professions. Oh by the way, you're docked 2 weeks pay. Now go report for traffic duty.
Don't forget he thinks Mike should be charged with burglary because he is asking for money. That tells you he's out of touch with reality.
08-21-2014 , 11:46 AM
Arraignment this morning at 0830 in Las Vegas. A "routine" process, if he shows up. If he doesn't, the judge may issue a warrant for his arrest. That would be in the nationwide system.

It is 8:50 AM there now.

Last edited by VP$IP; 08-21-2014 at 11:51 AM.
08-21-2014 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by VP$IP
Arraignment this morning at 0830 in Las Vegas. A "routine" process, if he shows up. If he doesn't, the judge may issue a warrant for his arrest. That would be in the nationwide system.

It is 8:50 AM there now.
Here's an update on the ticket scammer. I found the last line of the story funny. Also maybe he needs to learn this scam, he certainly would do less time in jail.....http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/20..._of_fraud.html
08-21-2014 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
Also, there is no crime in the New York State Penal Law titled "defrauding an innkeeper." The fact that that form of larceny is colloquially referred to as "defrauding an inkeeper" in New York City is something I wasn't aware of, as I don't practice there, and I long ago admitted I was wrong about that.
I do criminal defense work in NYC and i've never heard anyone use the term "defrauding an innkeeper." Sounds like some antiquated common law term. It's "theft of services."

Haven't read the thread in several weeks so I don't know why this matters whatsoever.
08-21-2014 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish Taco
Don't forget he thinks Mike should be charged with burglary because he is asking for money. That tells you he's out of touch with reality.
Oh yes I had forgotten about that funny point. I guess according to Mr. message board prosecutor/cop/security guard/whatever he is, every single person who makes up a story to get money should be charged with burglary too. Let's really overcrowd those jails and prisons worse than they already are. We the taxpayers can pay to house all of these "burglars" for years. Didn't he say 3-7 years or something?? Maybe jman could hold a seminar on here for all the novice wannabee prosecutors. It could be 1 of those Q&A type deals where we submit questions and once he finishes his Sears security shift he can answer some of them.

By the way, he said some guy named Matt on here has his real info but he doesn't want the general public to know right?? Me too jman, I have super top secret clearance so only a guy named Barack O. knows my real name. When I worked as a secret spy/handwriting analyst/food taster/nuclear scientist I had to get vetted. I can't "out" my name to the general public just like you can't. Shhhh, that's all I can say about that for now.
08-21-2014 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by frogprotection
Oh yes I had forgotten about that funny point. I guess according to Mr. message board prosecutor/cop/security guard/whatever he is, every single person who makes up a story to get money should be charged with burglary too. Let's really overcrowd those jails and prisons worse than they already are. We the taxpayers can pay to house all of these "burglars" for years. Didn't he say 3-7 years or something?? Maybe jman could hold a seminar on here for all the novice wannabee prosecutors. It could be 1 of those Q&A type deals where we submit questions and once he finishes his Sears security shift he can answer some of them.

By the way, he said some guy named Matt on here has his real info but he doesn't want the general public to know right?? Me too jman, I have super top secret clearance so only a guy named Barack O. knows my real name. When I worked as a secret spy/handwriting analyst/food taster/nuclear scientist I had to get vetted. I can't "out" my name to the general public just like you can't. Shhhh, that's all I can say about that for now.
You're trying way too hard Mike. "We the taxpayers" lol.

      
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