It is relevant to either the veracity of your post or to whether people should keep their cars locked when you're around.

It's not relevant, except that early on in the thread when I was suspicious of Mike's story I noted that defrauding an innkeeper isn't actually a titled crime in New York and now Mike's shill accounts use that fact to try to point out, I don't know what exactly. Thank you for backing up what I was saying.

State of Nevada vs. BOROVETZ, MICHAEL
08/21/2014
Arraignment (8:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Marshall, Janiece)
No bail posted
Result: Bench Warrant Issued
08/21/2014
Minute Order - Department 03 (Judicial Officer: Marshall, Janiece )
08/21/2014
Bench Warrant Ordered to be Issued (Judicial Officer: Marshall, Janiece )
$1,000/$1,000

California PC537 is defrauding an innkeeper.

Also, let the schadenfreude escalate; bench warrant issued. Be strong Mike.

I understand that it exists in other states. Mike early on stated that he was charged with defrauding an innkeeper IN NEW YORK. I responded that there is no crime called "defrauding an inkeeeper" IN NEW YORK, and that led me to disbelieve his story. I have since accepted that either he misreemembered the details of his exact charge, or someone colloquially used that term to refer to what he was charged to, and in any event, it is totally irrelevant to this thread except silly Mike shills think its evidence that I'm not telling the truth.

Lol, I can't say that wasn't unexpected. I would bet he has gotten warrants at one time or another all around the country. Better stay out of Nevada now Mike, or at the very least, Clark County

Never has so much been written about such a schlubby, pathetic loser.

More precise

Now do we think that Mike's degenerate need to gamble in vegas will be outweighed by his high risk of arrest on that warrant if he returns?

State of Nevada vs. BOROVETZ, MICHAEL
08/22/2014 Warrant Issued
08/22/2014 Bench Warrant Confidential
08/22/2014 Bench Warrant - Face Sheet

There was an interesting article a few weeks ago on the front page of the USA Today about the hundreds of thousands of warrants(a lot of them felony warrants) that will sit in the system for years and years because the states will not extradite the person. Sometimes even going beyond the county line was enough for the person not to have to worry about being picked up. Some of those warrants for people were pretty serious like domestic violence and assaults and attempted murder. I don't think Mike has anything to worry about for his umpteenth trespass warrant.

Sorry for what I'm sure sounds like noob questions, but what is this warrant for? I get that a bench warrant is for not showing up in court, so more specifically, which particular incident was this August 21 arraignment appearance for?

Even more specifically, is it related to Gzesh's encounter?

By the way, props to VP$IP for providing the closest we're gonna get to an update in this thread, especially now that PSUMike is banned and all of the people who have actually reached out to him constructively (e.g. Chainsaw, Slam, Mullet Man) have mostly left the conversation.

Edit: also, apologies if it's for something you've posted earlier. I've gone in and out of this thread, plus, we are now on page 40 and for all I know you posted it on page 23.

Damn just noticed now that the guy who started this thread Gzesh is now banned. How ironic is that?? In the first few pages all these moderators kept vouching for him including some of the head people on here. Why would he now be banned?? I guess it's a take no prisoners mentality on this site if they would ban a friend of almost every moderator on here.

[QUOTE=Wilbury Twist;44381866]Sorry for what I'm sure sounds like noob questions, but what is this warrant for? I get that a bench warrant is for not showing up in court, so more specifically, which particular incident was this August 21 arraignment appearance for?

Even more specifically, is it related to Gzesh's encounter?

By the way, props to VP$IP for providing the closest we're gonna get to an update in this thread, especially now that PSUMike is banned and all of the people who have actually reached out to him constructively (e.g. Chainsaw, Slam, Mullet Man) have mostly left the conversation.

The court appearance was for a trespassing citation issued on 6-23-2014. I believe that was a few days after gresh spilled the beans on Mike. Since he did not show up the bench warrant was issued, but it is no big deal. Mike can post a bond on the trespassing and failure to appear charges and would most likely not have to go to jail until his next court date. That would be expensive for him, but that is what most people would do. I think what he will do is wait to get arrested again in Vegas and then deal with the situation.
Most people with bench warrants get arrested when they get pulled over for a traffic violation. Since mike won't be driving if he does appear in Vegas, his chances of getting arrested are very slim. He also probably knows not to give the casinos his players card if he has one. I have heard of a case where a guy let the poker dealer swipe his card and then got arrested within one hour at the table. So, I think he will be ok unless gresh and jman find out he is in Vegas and drop a dime on him. My recommendation would be to post bail to avoid any issues. Of course, he may avoid Vegas and go to other poker venues.

Ah, gotcha... thanks. I must have missed it, or skimmed past it.

You're welcome. Who is the person in your avatar?

Meh, I wouldn't read too much into it.

For starters, the first appearance by an actual green-name moderator was a few hundred posts in, and it didn't reference Gzesh.

Secondly, the closest to anyone "vouching for him" was Bobo Fett, it was only to the extent of his story's veracity, and it only based on the fact that Gzesh was active within the poker industry (perhaps due to his legal expertise). So people like Mason, Professional Poker and Mat Sklansky know him outside of 2+2. But that doesn't mean he is above their rules.

Truth be told, I can rarely tell what gets a person banned. I've sometimes checked their recent posting history to see if I can spot the offending post. But I suspect the post generally gets removed, or that it's for something that occurred in a PM, or a combination of the two.

I've always thought it would be useful to have a thread in ATF that lists the infractions that lead to a person being banned, mostly so others can avoid making the same mistakes. Then again, it would take a team of mods working around the clock to keep that thread up to date.

That's Orianthi Panagaris, the young Australian guitarist who first got widespread attention as a backup musician on the Grammy awards and then again on Michael Jackson's This Is It tour. Of course, MJ died before the tour happened but the rehearsals turned into a documentary film, which in turn became Orianthi's true breakout performance.

So presumably, while Mike was posting his tale of woe on here, and telling people how badly he wanted to change his ways, he was still hitting the airports for gambling money?

I think it's a shame that Mike's banned. It'd be interesting to have him explain some of this stuff.

Expensive? That's just another afternoon at the airport for Mike. If he can manage to make it past the Pai Gow pit on the way to the courts.

That's the best thing about 2+2 IMO. Break the rules, and you're gone. Doesn't matter who you are or who you know. The rules are pretty clear and easy to follow. And for most offences, you'll get a warning or a temp ban first.

If the site will ban Daniel Negreanu -- one of the biggest name in poker -- for repeated infractions of the rules, it pretty much doesn't matter who you are or who you know.

wow thats a little american physco there.... he only asked who it was.

I can see the patrick bateman in you

All in all his whole story is pretty damn depressing. My grandfather was an alcoholic and a mean one at that so anyone battling an addiction has my sympathies. As for a lot of his choices, those are definitely questionable. It's pretty obvious that Mike doesn't want to change anytime soon so I will root for him to get that big score of his when he plays a tournament and hope that doublejoker or his family get hold of that money. Does he live out of motels??

Maybe this has been already answered because I have not read every post but why was Mike banned?? Did he break rules on here?? One thing I have noticed though is that since Mike can't post anymore on here this thread has gone way downhill. Doublejoker doesn't even post here anymore and he posts everywhere it seems.

Yeah, but when you get banned you just create a new account. Obviously, it hurts a bit if your borovetz or negreanu and your actual name means something.

No, you're right, it's doubtful that he'd be extradited from anywhere but Clark County or the surrounding counties. But since He wants to play poker in vegas to "bink" his next tournament, that will certainly put a damper on his plans.

[QUOTE=mchine;44382009] Boy, you sure do know an awful lot about how bench warrants work mchine, personal experience? Would certainly explain the ridiculous stances you have taken in this thread about MIke's criminal activities being "no big deal."