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Michael Borovetz, I believe he tried to scam me at McCarran Airport 6-22-14 Michael Borovetz, I believe he tried to scam me at McCarran Airport 6-22-14

08-24-2014 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mchine
Yes, probably true because the guy who got arrested at the table was big time criminal, not a small time traffic ticket violator. That being said, I still would not take any chances if I were a crook.
How about a top-ten of "places where crooks shouldn't go"? Dare Borovetz enter a supermarket? Maybe he should restrict himself to the off-strip delicatessen, circa 3am? I think it's time we all admit that poker players are crooks by design: since they live the fantasy of gaining money by deception. Would love Borovetz to host his own talk show in which he shines a light on the moral hypocrisy of others. For me, this whole thread is an indictment on the dangers of self-deception, that is, how so very few are willing to acknowledge that addiction exists for them as well as those miscreants who hang around airports with a convoluted story to tell. As a budding layman of a psychologist, I henceforth coin this syndrome the "Borovetz effect" (and kind of hope it gains traction in the marketplace and that its namesake makes a claim for the intellectual property rights).
08-24-2014 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jman220
My personal information is just that, personal. While a few mods & admins may know/remember my real name from when I was also a moderator I would request that nobody post or give away my real name. If it makes you feel better to pretend that I'm just a troll and making up what I do for a living, then feel free to do just that, it's no skin off my back.

Regards,
--jman220
Reading a lot of your know-it-all arrogant posts was part of the reason I went from lurker to obtaining an account. Did Mike make mistakes?? Yes and his life is nothing to write home about because unless a miracle happens and he snags a big win, I don't see his life improving any. However you have been obsessively bashing the guy non-stop over and over again. I guess you believe in kicking a guy when he's down because that is all you do. That and pretend you're some cop/DA/security specialist/whatever and probably get off on it when a few gullible people ask you questions.

People like you make me sick because fishtaco is right. There are murderers, armed robbers, women beaters, etc... and you want to throw a panhandler with a story of woe in prison for burglary. Get a life Mr. Prosecutor.
08-24-2014 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DrTJO
How about a top-ten of "places where crooks shouldn't go"? Dare Borovetz enter a supermarket? Maybe he should restrict himself to the off-strip delicatessen, circa 3am? I think it's time we all admit that poker players are crooks by design: since they live the fantasy of gaining money by deception. Would love Borovetz to host his own talk show in which he shines a light on the moral hypocrisy of others. For me, this whole thread is an indictment on the dangers of self-deception, that is, how so very few are willing to acknowledge that addiction exists for them as well as those miscreants who hang around airports with a convoluted story to tell. As a budding layman of a psychologist, I henceforth coin this syndrome the "Borovetz effect" (and kind of hope it gains traction in the marketplace and that its namesake makes a claim for the intellectual property rights).
Ha ha yeah and it's usually the most vocal critics of Mike who have the most to hide about their own lives. Maybe the "Borovetz" effect can be his claim to fame because it probably won't be a book or movie.
08-24-2014 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by frogprotection
Ha ha yeah and it's usually the most vocal critics of Mike who have the most to hide about their own lives. .
Like when Mike was so offended of shady behavior that he started a thread about the Rio employee who was demanding tips to start satellites. Within a week of that thread mikes story came out. Amazing a guy doing all this dirt his entire life is so quick to judge others who are also doing wrong. Mike hit 100% hypocrite scumbag status right there and hasn't moved an inch in the other direction since.


Any of mikes supporters want to explain why he is so quick to judge another when he is doing far worse??
08-24-2014 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by frogprotection
Reading a lot of your know-it-all arrogant posts was part of the reason I went from lurker to obtaining an account. Did Mike make mistakes?? Yes and his life is nothing to write home about because unless a miracle happens and he snags a big win, I don't see his life improving any. However you have been obsessively bashing the guy non-stop over and over again. I guess you believe in kicking a guy when he's down because that is all you do. That and pretend you're some cop/DA/security specialist/whatever and probably get off on it when a few gullible people ask you questions.

People like you make me sick because fishtaco is right. There are murderers, armed robbers, women beaters, etc... and you want to throw a panhandler with a story of woe in prison for burglary. Get a life Mr. Prosecutor.
You idiots don't get it. He says he will pay back people for hundreds of dollars. He isn't asking for a buck or two or any spare change.

Watch the local news when winter season starts. There will always be a wanted grifter who goes house to house and says he will plow peoples driveways for x hundreds a season and never shows up after he gets x up front. Or go back a few pages and see the con artist that promises event tickets. Mike is no different than these guys. He just hasn't been prosecuted because he drifts from area to area and potential witnesses are out of state or even country and aren't coming in for a few hundred dollars. True story I went to high school with a guy who conned a summer camp out of 20 or 30K 20+ years ago he was on the local news and an APB was put out for him. Mike has conned people for 15 years for X times more....
08-24-2014 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by I hate lederer
wow thats a little american physco there.... he only asked who it was.

I can see the patrick bateman in you
Hell of an inference.

He asked, I answered. If I just give her name, he still doesn't know who it is. But — as you pointed out — he wanted to know who it is.
08-24-2014 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Hell of an inference.

He asked, I answered. If I just give her name, he still doesn't know who it is. But — as you pointed out — he wanted to know who it is.
Yes, I googled her. She seems very talented.
And I think that other guy spelled psycho wrong. He got all the letters right but the order was messed up. Sorry for the derail. Back to scams.
08-24-2014 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lefty rosen
You idiots don't get it. He says he will pay back people for hundreds of dollars. He isn't asking for a buck or two or any spare change.

Watch the local news when winter season starts. There will always be a wanted grifter who goes house to house and says he will plow peoples driveways for x hundreds a season and never shows up after he gets x up front. Or go back a few pages and see the con artist that promises event tickets. Mike is no different than these guys. He just hasn't been prosecuted because he drifts from area to area and potential witnesses are out of state or even country and aren't coming in for a few hundred dollars. True story I went to high school with a guy who conned a summer camp out of 20 or 30K 20+ years ago he was on the local news and an APB was put out for him. Mike has conned people for 15 years for X times more....
I am definitely not defending Mike's actions because what he is doing is wrong. What I am defending however, is that in the grand scheme of things what Mike is doing is very small compared to many more serious crimes. There are so many panhandlers all over in every major city and most of them lie through their teeth as soon as they open their mouths. If the homeless crackhead in Dallas was given $200 from a random guy he would take it as well. What Mike did was invent a more advanced story that combined with his speaking ability and looks has netted him more money.

It just gets my goat that certain guys like jman act like the guy has committed capital murder, rape, armed robbery and kidnapping. Yeah the guy is a degen, a homeless degen who has a gambling addiction and scams rich people at airports. He's been outed, he's been banned and unless he binks a major poker tournament his life will probably remain status quo. Still can't believe someone contacted his father though. That's downright pathetic.
08-24-2014 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by frogprotection
Ha ha yeah and it's usually the most vocal critics of Mike who have the most to hide about their own lives. Maybe the "Borovetz" effect can be his claim to fame because it probably won't be a book or movie.
[ ] Reveals real name and location ITT
08-24-2014 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by frogprotection
I am definitely not defending Mike's actions because what he is doing is wrong. What I am defending however, is that in the grand scheme of things what Mike is doing is very small compared to many more serious crimes.
Amusing to see this thread still on life support, though I admit I have not read most of the posts in the past month.

I do find this often stated belief to be rather simplistic, as essentially it excuses everything except things that are "serious," and in the end only one thing can be the most "serious." Thus, any time spent on anything else is wasted and should be spent on the most "serious" issue.

Humans live a daily life, they do not live a life in the "grand scheme of things" and part of civilization is that even small wrongdoings should have appropriate consequences.



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Originally Posted by frogprotection
It just gets my goat
In the grand scheme of things, you being in your 80s is not that serious. I realize I am being quite the whippersnapper saying that.

All the best.
08-24-2014 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
That doesn't qualify as a good reason.
It's not like Mike is 12 or something.
I think we are probably looking at the word "good" in different ways. By contacting his family it certainly caused them pain, which they don't deserve, so the action is never going to be seen as good. Maybe "real" was the better word.

Some people take being conned very personally, and it may lead to inappropriate actions, especially if the con man has allowed his true identity to be known.

So I concur, not good. A sad foot note to a bizarre story.

Still, you can't take the NVGer out of me, so I would be interested in knowing the "real" reason why someone would do this, but I doubt that will be clarified.
08-24-2014 , 11:31 AM
Clearly it was just to stir the pot, in attempt to gain some NVG street cred.
He's probably jizzing himself right now, in the same way that Brilliant27 does every time he searches his own name on here and finds a new match.
08-24-2014 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by frogprotection
I am definitely not defending Mike's actions because what he is doing is wrong. What I am defending however, is that in the grand scheme of things what Mike is doing is very small compared to many more serious crimes. There are so many panhandlers all over in every major city and most of them lie through their teeth as soon as they open their mouths. If the homeless crackhead in Dallas was given $200 from a random guy he would take it as well. What Mike did was invent a more advanced story that combined with his speaking ability and looks has netted him more money.

It just gets my goat that certain guys like jman act like the guy has committed capital murder, rape, armed robbery and kidnapping. Yeah the guy is a degen, a homeless degen who has a gambling addiction and scams rich people at airports. He's been outed, he's been banned and unless he binks a major poker tournament his life will probably remain status quo. Still can't believe someone contacted his father though. That's downright pathetic.
It is if you look at the 200 dollars a pop or whatever he gets, but if you accumulate it the total it's higher than fraudsters that scam in home renovations or snow removal. When you do those things you get 1 year in jail or so and restitution. All Mike has gotten for this is a weekend in jail or until he sees a judge. The guy I know from high school probably got a 2 year sentence for his crime. The ticket seller has gotten similar sentences to that too....
08-25-2014 , 02:49 PM
Calling his father?

That is pretty low.
08-25-2014 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kevincollins
Michael is definitely a loser and a scammer. I contacted his father Harvey who is a prominent professor at PSU to track down Michael and he responded to me very quickly saying



His addictions to gambling and his scamming have been so difficult for my wife and I to deal with … we certainly did not raise him this way.
I haven’t seen Michael for years now, since before he was incarcerated in New York state several years ago.
Michael has also been incarcerated in California and Nevada; I assume there are other incidents I am unfamiliar with.
Who the hell do you think you are?

First someone calls a casino rep to get him barred from a freeroll, now people are calling his parents? I wouldn't be surprised is this Jman nutsqueezer has called friendly law enforcement agencies trying to get him into further trouble as well. This thread really needs to be locked/deleted as it clearly has now degenerated into a stalk Mike and further ruin his life troll contest.
08-25-2014 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Calling his father?

That is pretty low.
I agree. How can it help anyone to call his parents? All it will do is upset them. That is a very scummy thing to do to his parents.
08-25-2014 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
It was closed and only opened because I think deadspin brought it up.
Exactly.

"OMG, we are on Deadspin! Gotta unlock the Borovetz thread for all of the potential eyeballs on the site!"

Now the nut low thread is greeting all of those new eyeballs.
08-25-2014 , 05:35 PM
^^
08-25-2014 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
I agree. How can it help anyone to call his parents? All it will do is upset them. That is a very scummy thing to do to his parents.
Pretty scummy but only 1/10,000th the scumminess of their son's actions.

Stay strong kevincollins!

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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
I wouldn't be surprised is this Jman nutsqueezer has called friendly law enforcement agencies trying to get him into further trouble as well.
Mike's actions are the main things that result in "further trouble".

Stay strong jman!

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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
This thread really needs to be locked/deleted as it clearly has now degenerated into a stalk Mike and further ruin his life troll contest.
Maybe Mike can give them stalker lessons for how he chooses his victims at the airport.

Stay strong stalkers!
08-25-2014 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by harkin
Pretty scummy but only 1/10,000th the scumminess of their son's actions.

Stay strong kevincollins!



Mike's actions are the main things that result in "further trouble".

Stay strong jman!



Maybe Mike can give them stalker lessons for how he chooses his victims at the airport.

Stay strong stalkers!
Stay even stronger Harkin!
08-26-2014 , 12:23 AM
There is no chance that swiping a players card is going to trigger a raid from the cops for a bench warrant. A bench warrant means they aren't actively searching for you, but if you get stopped for some reason by a cop and he runs your info he will pinch you.
08-26-2014 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
Who the hell do you think you are?

First someone calls a casino rep to get him barred from a freeroll, now people are calling his parents? I wouldn't be surprised is this Jman nutsqueezer has called friendly law enforcement agencies trying to get him into further trouble as well. This thread really needs to be locked/deleted as it clearly has now degenerated into a stalk Mike and further ruin his life troll contest.
In my opinion 2+2 blew it big time. Mike was avidly participating in this thread and even though a lot of people hated on him, the guy had the balls to face the music despite some of the hate. He opened up more than anyone I can ever remember being outed for something. Even though he wasn't coming right out and admitting to going back to airports, as soon as he was outed again he came in here and admitted it. How many scammer threads ever that have been started has the perpetrator came in and discussed what's going on in their lives?? I have lurked for a few years and can't remember other examples. Maybe the Lindgren thread but I thought it was Negreanu speaking up and defending him, not Lindgren himself(but I could be wrong).

By banning Mike this thread has gone from FILET MIGNON to MCDONALDS HAMBURGER(hold the pickles). All that's left are the same few people repeating the same exact things. So I guess every few months there will be another report of Mike at an airport to liven it up for a day or 2, or if Mike plays a poker tournament someone will tweet about it and half the people will come on here and root against him while the other half roots for him but inevitably this thread will go back to what we are witnessing now, pure garbage.
08-26-2014 , 12:05 PM
isn't it clear that frog protection is psumike? first he calls him good looking then he calls thread + mike filet......

he IS either mike or has the biggest man crush on mike and his nutsack ever...

should be good for the forum to have mikes gimmick account adding new life to the thread

psu was a tadpole

mike is now a protected frog..... all grown up
08-26-2014 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by harrythepro
isn't it clear that frog protection is psumike? first he calls him good looking then he calls thread + mike filet......

he IS either mike or has the biggest man crush on mike and his nutsack ever...

should be good for the forum to have mikes gimmick account adding new life to the thread

psu was a tadpole

mike is now a protected frog..... all grown up
Anytime a post is made that has even a hint of saying something positive about Mike, the account posting it has to be Mike himself. Guess that is part of the Troll pact.

Stay Strong Mike...
08-26-2014 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by frogprotection
Reading a lot of your know-it-all arrogant posts was part of the reason I went from lurker to obtaining an account. Did Mike make mistakes?? Yes and his life is nothing to write home about because unless a miracle happens and he snags a big win, I don't see his life improving any. However you have been obsessively bashing the guy non-stop over and over again. I guess you believe in kicking a guy when he's down .......
Funny, Mike was thinking the same. Instead of NOT visit a casino and work on his problem, his only way out was to get rich quick. What a coincidence that you have the same view on how to change his/your life.

Yet you tell people it was just a few times and just a couple of hundred per time, he cheated people on. So, yeah, getting a job and pay people back in 2 years time while having money to live and eat from is impossible according to you. It must be a miracle to get out of some debts? The guy/you should get a normal job, pay off debts, stay out casino's and do something with your life.

Only losers think they need to hit a jackpot to be happy with their lives. Wonderful idea to get into debt even more to get that 0,001 chance on a couple of million (which he/you) will blow away in a month.

      
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