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05-27-2012 , 01:57 PM
So what is the thought on that igaming post article? Do we think it's legit or just yanking us around?
05-27-2012 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by irockhoess
True, but it is the Casino Employees. First "open" event tomorrow.

Obviously this is complete speculation as there has been no confirmation on a deal even being in the works from neither the DOJ nor PS...BUT...

...In my view, from a purely PR perspective, if you were PS and going to make an announcement soon regarding a completed deal, tomorrow would be a great choice:

-Let the spotlight from SCOOP run its course a week after completing the largest online tournament series in history
-Don't interfere with your Sunday before WSOP, probably one of their bigger Sundays before a drought now that no one can play on there from WSOP
-Maximize word of mouth potential via the live scene on the "first" (open) WSOP event stage to carry publicity through towards Fall state legalization in Nevada and a handful of other states to follow to put pressure on legislators to let you back in as you have proven how committed you are to doing right by your American base.

Obviously the ROW implications are there as well, but that deal already makes sense and I have omitted it as it really needs no explanation why creating brand-loyalty with the second-largest customer base in your industry is a lucrative long-term idea. (I don't know when to use hyphens properly, just throw 'em out there and see what sticks)

Then again what YOU want as a company settling indictments with the DOJ may not be highest on the DOJ's list of priorities.

Does anyone know the numbers on Memorial Day in casinos regarding poker? I was shocked how many people would be there on say an Easter weekend, wonder if its a big day for them or a really low day because people all want to BBQ outside.

Also can't imagine anyone would take offense to a company announcing on Memorial Day that they are repaying Americans ~$150 million dollars. Not exactly the equivalent of raising the hammer and sickle.


If they are trying to maximize publicity doing it on Monday does not seem like the best bet. I also don't see going out during wsop actually helps you much and in some cases might get you overshadowed. The only person to clam a pre wsop launch was desired was bogus with no actual inside information.

I just don't think people just be ebbing and flowing with each tournament start waiting for an announcement.

For the issues involved trying to launch before wsop, if it was something they cared about was probably 30th on the priority list.
05-27-2012 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
So what is the thought on that igaming post article? Do we think it's legit or just yanking us around?
igaming post is the chinamaniac of news sites.
05-27-2012 , 02:15 PM
Ahhh makes sense.... Thanks. So its 99.9% accurate and hold your breath on it is what you're telling me right?
05-27-2012 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
igaming post is the chinamaniac of news sites.
i actually think chinaman is more legit then igaming
05-27-2012 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialOne
i actually think chinaman is more legit then igaming
LOL, that's a breath stealer.

I just don't get the point as to why a web site would put out false information. It's not like it helps their rep and people trust the site. Which you would think would give the site less and less views. I just don't understand why it would mess with people's heads like that.
05-27-2012 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
If they are trying to maximize publicity doing it on Monday does not seem like the best bet. I also don't see going out during wsop actually helps you much and in some cases might get you overshadowed. The only person to clam a pre wsop launch was desired was bogus with no actual inside information.
Because there is no other time for Pokerstars to announce it and get nearly the publicity that the WSOP brings to legitimate poker news sites (oxymoron?).

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I just don't think people just be ebbing and flowing with each tournament start waiting for an announcement.
Were you at last year's WSOP man? This is all people did w/ regards to black friday. Remember there is no internet poker for people to hole up in their rooms and play. All of the players congregate in the live rooms and all anyone wants to do is talk to you about everything.

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For the issues involved trying to launch before wsop, if it was something they cared about was probably 30th on the priority list.
Most likely, but if given the option of picking a date, the start of the WSOP makes a lot of sense. My post does say though that when negotiating indictments with the DOJ this might not be realistic at all.
05-27-2012 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by D.S.
This just looks like foldacedeuce is deliberately spamming his own website, since every other account from the same location as him also spammed this drivel website before we banned it, entirely for page views and should be considered unreliable on that basis. And also what KevMath says above.
That is how you get a site into the filter.
05-27-2012 , 02:35 PM
Does anyone have any links to a legit site stating that the last week of May was the time frame?
05-27-2012 , 02:39 PM
While we all enjoy a good Chinamaniac joke, it does seem apparent that PS really were expecting to close the deal pre-WSOP, and that the issue of who repays U.S players actually is/was the hangup.

That surprises me, as the DOJ won't cave on that issue - they don't have a fraud case against FTP directors if they don't have victims owed remission - and relative to an almost $1B deal, would handling the payments themselves save PS a significant amount of money?

Or was PS not actually the party that refused to back down on handling the payments, but rather perhaps FTP refused to sign off on DOJ repayment as that would leave them vulnerable on the civil charges?

What is more likely, PS who has always been straight forward, allowed everyone to get there hopes up for nothing, or FTP is over playing their hand once again?
05-27-2012 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
What's the thought on that article from Igamingpost kevmath?? Think it's realistic?
lolnope

article = lucy holding football

us = charlie brown
05-27-2012 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by coolnout
lolnope

article = lucy holding football

us = charlie brown
i lol'd. (two oldish men ITT)
05-27-2012 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fulzgold
i lol'd. (two oldish men ITT)
Make that three , funny because it's so true!
05-27-2012 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by coolnout
lolnope

article = lucy holding football

us = charlie brown
LOL That should be the cliffs for this thread
05-27-2012 , 03:06 PM
Legal steps need to be completed before this can be resolved. Tomorrow is a federal holiday. Ergo...
05-27-2012 , 03:13 PM
Maybe it's already done.... unless you have inside info, and they are just going to make it official tomorrow?
05-27-2012 , 03:24 PM
seems unlikely

If nothing is done this week the next deadline for over/under wagers should be the first week of july for the main event.
05-27-2012 , 03:28 PM
Who knows..... If one person says one thing, 40 more are gonna have 40 more dates to say.
05-27-2012 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
Maybe it's already done....
lol in your dreams!
05-27-2012 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
Maybe it's already done.... unless you have inside info, and they are just going to make it official tomorrow?
If legal steps where complete, the documents would already have been filed, and we would know because it's a part of the public record. I would rate the likelihood that numerous federal employees decided to do something like this on Memorial Day to be extremely low. They'll be drinking beer and grilling hot dogs like everyone else.
05-27-2012 , 03:49 PM
I really do not like forums anymore.... as everyone seems to be a know-it-all. But can't spell correctly or use proper grammar. Just funny to me is all....
05-27-2012 , 04:16 PM
´Has Howard yett made any statemeant about this mess? Isnt time he says something like SRY.
05-27-2012 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by molinn9
´Has Howard yett made any statemeant about this mess? Isnt time he says something like SRY.
Spoiler:
when he is ready
05-27-2012 , 04:35 PM
So... igaming post is just giving us the big trollface, or what? I mean, I guess it's possible that the deal is wrapped up, they make the announcement Monday, then it all gets filed and legalized Tuesday, but.... meh.
05-27-2012 , 04:37 PM
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The PokerStars-Tilt acquisition is still on target to happen. The devil is in the details, and it’s taking longer than some hope to announce, but as of today, it’s still on track. Once it goes through, expect the deal details, repayment plans, and relaunch plans to completely dominate the headlines.
http://wickedchopspoker.com/the-2012...ngs-to-expect/

      
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