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05-26-2012 , 04:59 PM
This is just never ending.... so sad to see what happened to all of these people. I hope it all works out for everyone in the end. I just want the day to come, where everyone gets paid by FTP and poker is legalized in the US. But can't sit around and wait everyday for something new to happen. It will happen when you least expect it. It sure is awful quiet right now for this deal. I hope something pops off soon.
05-26-2012 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Blizzuff
Yes, there is a chance that the deal is closing and PokerStars said "hey PocketKings, we're going to expand our own workforce to handle FTP so we don't need any of those people". I might be inclined to believe that, except that he specifically refers to negotiations reaching an impasse, etc.
Wake up man.
05-26-2012 , 05:12 PM
There is also the possibility that the deal is still going through, just that Pstars wants to separate as much as they can between themselves and Pkings, Ft etc...Possible that they want to get rid of anything they don't need, leaving the bad taste of the name out of players mouths? Liquidating the company as much as possible before relaunching with a dirty name and bad rep? I'm fishing here but....

I mean seriously, if you were pokerstars, would you want anything from their support side or management coming along for the ride? The reputation over there is scum, and Stars wants nothing like that associated with them when it's time to launch.

Last edited by SGT RJ; 05-27-2012 at 10:10 AM.
05-26-2012 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hitgirl
Wake up man.
Did you actually read my post, or did you just see one small mention of a possible silver lining and went "OMG IM A BUSTO TOOL WHO MASTURBATES VIOLENTLY AT THE THOUGHT OF NOBODY GETTING PAID BACK, MUST MASH THE REPLY BUTTON"?
05-26-2012 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Blizzuff
No, he was hired by Pocket Kings in anticipation of the GBT (or any) deal.



I'd love to see it like this but it's very hard to after reading the post by the Portuguese gentleman. If these people were being fired because the GBT deal fell through they would've been let go weeks ago. They were hired because of the GBT deal looking like it was going through and then kept on the last several weeks as the PokerStars deal looked solid. Having these people be let go has to be seen as a pretty bad sign, IMO.

Yes, there is a chance that the deal is closing and PokerStars said "hey PocketKings, we're going to expand our own workforce to handle FTP so we don't need any of those people". I might be inclined to believe that, except that he specifically refers to negotiations reaching an impasse, etc. It's possible that he's just rehashing office rumor and doesn't really know the full story, I guess. We'll see.
First let me say this is my own opinion and not based on any inside information...

A number of people were hired on a temporary contract, including people that were former employees that were lost to the redundancy. At the time, I am sure that Tapie approved the payroll because he was under the impression that their deal closing was imminent, within days. Right now, I don't think PocketKings has the authority to renew or initiate new contracts, strictly because they cannot take on new liabilities without approval and the guarantee that those liabilities will be paid. The new buyer could indeed sign those new contracts at any time, or never, they can bring in their own people or consolidate certain departments etc. It's just that I don't think those decisions have been made yet in full and they certainly aren't closing this weekend, so it is not totally unexpected.

That said, I've been in touch with some of the people that returned to work at PK and they really like their jobs, they want to keep those jobs, even with and especially with, the new buyer. Many left other employment to return to Dublin, and moved their families. I hope that the uncertainty for them is cleared up soon, but I don't believe that this happening (the contracts not being renewed) means that the negotiations being worked on now have taken any downward spiral at all.
05-26-2012 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HiHoALL
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Originally Posted by Guy with question
Hello, Antonio! I'm from the Russian community of Pokerstrategy. All would be grateful if you could answer a few questions.

In your message, are you talking about the failure the deal with pokerstars or deal with Bernard Tapie? Fired all staff or only those hired recently? Have you heard anything about a deal with pokerstars or is it rumor?

Too bad that it happened. Good luck in future!
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Originally Posted by Guy that got fired
I am sorry but I won't answer to your questions! Thanks for the good luck wishes, anyway.
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Originally Posted by Guy that got fired
Cheers mate! If you looking for news, wait for the official ones!
05-26-2012 , 05:50 PM
i mean stars 100% know that everyone is hoping they have some sort of deal with DOJ. Is it that hard to give at least some info (even if you decided not to have any deal) for people waiting?
05-26-2012 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lancelott_
i mean stars 100% know that everyone is hoping they have some sort of deal with DOJ. Is it that hard to give at least some info (even if you decided not to have any deal) for people waiting?
Im optimistic that no news is good news in this situation. I don't see any reason why they couldn't have denied the 'rumors' if they weren't planning to buy FTP. Lets hope at least
05-26-2012 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lancelott_
i mean stars 100% know that everyone is hoping they have some sort of deal with DOJ. Is it that hard to give at least some info (even if you decided not to have any deal) for people waiting?
Their not going to respond to rumors, it would not make sense really. If they are really in talks to attempt to purchase FTP, then the worse thing they can do is start issueing news releases on the progress of the talks.

The only good news in everything I guess would be if they were no interested buyers in FTP, then I would imagine they would go chapter 11. Sense they have not done that, then someone must be interested in buying them.
05-26-2012 , 06:17 PM
ugh. i have a super bad feeling about all of this.

not looking good to say the least.
05-26-2012 , 06:27 PM
Maybe they are making them reapply for their position. That way Stars can say that they have ensured they have the best people working there.
05-26-2012 , 06:29 PM
How is this bad news?


Stop reading so much into it.
05-26-2012 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RollWave
where are all the doj and ftp announcements of previous deals that went bust?

If they didn't announce those when they fell through, why would they announce this one if it goes bust?
UH well Tapie Announced when his deal for FTP went bust, remember??

Maybe PS will announce also if their deal goes bust, ya know for PR reasons ya think?

Now if the Deals go thru then I seriously think some announcement by all parties is likely, ya think? Since no deal has yet been made there are no previous announcements except of course when PS Announced that they would pay all their USA customers their balances. That worked out.
Do you have some alternative view on how things might progress?? Hell , pal, this is NVG, Rave on!
05-26-2012 , 07:03 PM
Online poker is still a thriving industry and full tilt was the best software in the world.
It would be a crime to see a program so good disappear after all this.
05-26-2012 , 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by China maniac

99.9 leaves the possibility of failure or delays

As far as people getting annoyed at me they can go shove a stick up their asses, all I am doing is passing on things I hear.

Until Stars gives an official announcement nothing is set in stone

This is chinas response to all of us on that welfare version forum.
China said the likely hood of the deal happening was 99%
And this is why so many people hate this guy for this latest **** he pulled. This is his attitude. That .01% is actually very likely in his head.
05-26-2012 , 07:53 PM
Crazy to say, but maybe Joey was right all along.
05-26-2012 , 07:59 PM
Joey are you obsessed or what? China's FOS, there's no surprise there, so just let it go you're not accomplishing anything worthwhile with your rants.
05-26-2012 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadStacks
Joey are you obsessed or what? China's FOS, there's no surprise there, so just let it go you're not accomplishing anything worthwhile with your rants.
It's obvious to most he is full of it but there was still a lot of defenders for him. Just showing them who they defended.
05-26-2012 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyrulesall
It's obvious to most he is full of it but there was still a lot of defenders for him. Just showing them who they defended.
If by "a lot of defenders" you mean Chinamaniac getting ripped on over and over again for like 10 pages of this thread, then yes.

And no, the fact that China's prediction didn't happen doesn't mean that Joey was right. I'm sorry that so many people on here are unable to see why. Please keep playing poker though, thanks.
05-26-2012 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Blizzuff
If by "a lot of defenders" you mean Chinamaniac getting ripped on over and over again for like 10 pages of this thread, then yes.

And no, the fact that China's prediction didn't happen doesn't mean that Joey was right. I'm sorry that so many people on here are unable to see why. Please keep playing poker though, thanks.
You must be a lot of fun in real life.

Can't wait for the angry long winded boring response.

Last edited by SGT RJ; 05-27-2012 at 10:13 AM.
05-26-2012 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyrulesall
You must be a lot of fun in real life.
As opposed to the cheery ball of fun that you've brought to this thread, right?
05-26-2012 , 10:01 PM
Oh oh here comes another witty trying to be sarcastic rebuttal. I can't wait for this saga to end so I can never read this thing again. I also can't wait to get back to just playing against these busto fish online
05-26-2012 , 10:02 PM
LOL.... how about you get a life instead of trying to get into chinas pants.... its pretty obvious you are obsessed with him. You have pretty much tracked down his whole life. I wouldn't be surprised if you had his number and address. Creep.
05-26-2012 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Brilliant27
Crazy to say, but maybe Joey was right all along.
Please don't encourage him.
05-26-2012 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyrulesall
Oh oh here comes another witty trying to be sarcastic rebuttal. I can't wait for this saga to end so I can never read this thing again. I also can't wait to get back to just playing against these busto fish online
How about you start never reading this thing again, right now? It's not like you reading this adds anything to the thread, and by your own admission it apparently adds nothing to your life, either.

Also, I just gotta say I'm a big fan of the trolling you've done the last few pages. Make a post of pure snark, then when someone responds with an identical tone, criticize them for it. Genius.

      
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